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Quote:I can see the argument that some specific sets might need a bit of rearrangement but I don't think the sets need to be standardized across the board.But they don't really play differently, it is just annoying early on. You advance through the levels so fast now that you're at 20 in no time at all, and even exemplaring a set like fire or ice isn't impacted even as low as a Posi with the new SSK system. In a case like Energy, it just falsely creates the assumptions that Explosive Blast is poor, or that Energy is a ST set, when neither are true.
There's just no reason for it being this way. Scrappers, for instance, aren't this way. Every Scrapper gets their taunt power at level 12. If they have a single activation build up power, it's at level 6 (with the exception of Blinding Feint, which is at 8). The sets are getting a third ST melee attack by level 8. Even with the diversity of some of the sets, there isn't such a thing as waiting until 18 to put together a reasonable attack chain. The diversity in Scrappers comes in the powers, not in odd tier placements.
Some of the blaster tier placements are the same issue as Gravity has with Wormhole.........simply unnecessary.
Quote:YES. I do play an Energy Blaster a lot, so that does impact that situation some, but there are also advertisements and such for certain Blaster sets, mostly from those that think all a Blaster is there for is AOE damage. I've heard people flat out say that if you're not Archery or Fire, don't bother joining their team. It certainly isn't as pronounced as something like Emp defenders, but it does exist.
Quote:You'll find yourself very much in the minority here due to the long activation time creating a ridiculously bad DPA. Ironically, most people would say the opposite: when it is taken, it is generally done more on Defenders than it is Blasters, due mostly to the comparative damage with other powers in the set. I would like to hear your thoughts on why you like it so much, as threads pertaining to snipes are generally one sided.
As for why I like it on Blasters. My Blaster is an AR/Dev. Assault Rifle is horrible in terms of ST damage (technically Ignite fills that role but it doesn't really suit me as a power, maybe one day I'll try it again). Over time I've come to rely on snipe as an additional ST attack, I've got it slotted decently for Interrupt and using it in combat is possible, you have to time it correctly. Additionally in open maps I use the extra range to pick off fleeing enemies. Secondly I leveled my Blaster from 1 to 50 almost entirely solo. While doing that Sniper rifle was my primary form of damage mitigation. Up until the 40s I could use it to one shot most minions which is an effective 33% damage mitigation against a 3-minion spawn. Post 40 the relative damage dropped off but even then by dropping a Trip Mine before combat I could 1-shot most minions (and against Carnies I didn't even need the mine). Finally, I just really like the Sniper Rifle animation .
So yes, Snipe attacks aren't the best powers in the game and are near useless on a team but for a solo blaster they are an invaluable tool. For that reason alone I do not want to see the snipes go away.
Quote:Oddly, I thought this one would face the most criticism (and it still might). Archery and Energy are essentially identical sets except for two big things: The ST damage is split more evenly in Energy (and more concentrated in Blazing Arrow for Archery) and the fact Archery has the short recharge ROA rather than the long recharge Nova. Other than that, if you look at the cone + AOE in each set, and the total of single target in each set, you'll see they are indeed very, very similar. Obviously they play differently due to the secondary effects, but in term of balance metrics like damage they are extremely close.
Assault Rifle is similar. In all three instances the standard cone and standard AOE are essentially the same (I believe M30, Explosive Blast, and Explosive Arrow are indeed exact clones). Fistful, Torrent, and Buckshot are very similar as well (certainly in terms of damage). Assault Rifle's problems are really more in terms of Ignite acting as a tier 3, but even that is partially made up with the inclusion of Flamethrower, which gives Assault Rifle more AOEs than a standard set (replacing the normally skipped snipe attack), and not by the inclusion of Full Auto.
Does Energy need rebalanced then? I would say, no. It's a middle of the road set, which is why I'm using it as a simple comparative. Why would archery need re-balancing, then? ROA in its current form isn't what makes Archery viable, although its issues of redundancy have made people think that. People have made Archery a set around ROA because its extremely effective in today's common high recharge builds, rather than because that's how the set is truly balanced. If it were that case then we have some serious balance issues with nearly all of the remaining Blast sets, because Archery's ST and AOE damage (ignoring tier 9s entirely) are right where they should be, with respect to the other Blast sets.
Another thing to consider is that enemy groups have differing amounts of resistance and overall Smashing and Lethal are the most resisted damage types. Since both Archery and Assault Rifle deal lethal damage giving them a slightly better base damage as compensation seems fair to me.
Finally, while Archery and Fire might be the best sets for farming I don't think that is a valid reason for re-balancing. Farming is by its nature against enemies that are most susceptible to your damage type. If you took Assault Rifle and Archery in against every single enemy group in the game one after another I don't think that they would significantly outperform the other blast sets. -
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Quote:Both Mind and Illusion Controllers have the same early progression. That being said, Mind is also considered weak although Illusion makes up for it in later levels .Gravity, definately, what other set do you know of that cannot do it's ATs primary function for over half its career?
Depending on your secondary Gravity/ is a gimped defender. For example an FF/Ice Defender offers better shields, and even more control then a CONTROLLER for levels 1-26. Stalkers, Dark defenders, Dark corruptors, and countless other combinations are better then Gravity control at controlling. In its current situation I see no reason to take Gravity control over anything else for mitigation. -
Quote:They're organized differently so that they play differently. If they were all the same progression then differences between the sets would become pretty marginal. For example, Assault Rifle has excellent AoE damage but rubbish ST damage and no Aim to compensate. Fire has excellent ST damage, good AoE damage and Aim, it's weakness is no mitigation either as secondary effects or as a mez power. I could go on. Reorganizing the sets to all follow the same progression would just make Blasters more generic than they already are (seriously, have you ever seen anyone inquire what set a blaster is before inviting one? One blaster is pretty much as good as another.)All blast sets, for instance. There's really no reason that more sets aren't organized like Archery where you get all 3 single target attacks early plus both AOE powers relatively early. None of this crap where you wait 18 levels for your tier 3 (fire, ice....) or 26 levels for your targeted AOE (energy....).
Quote:I'd also completely do away with all of the sniper attacks in those sets. That's one power that really has no usage considering its balancing metrics in comparison to other ST powers.
Quote:Similarly, all blaster tier 9s would become endurance draining nukes, rather than just some of them. Again, like the sniper sets, the balance metrics don't work right with the other tier 9s in blast sets. The tier 9s with low recharge values, in an era of City of Kins and City of IOs, creates far too much redundancy of powers. -
Quote:In general I agree with your assessments. I really like Devices, both for concept and because it's got some fun powers. That being said I've recently started a Traps/AR and the difference is like night and day. Even with the lower damage and fewer attacks available to a Defender soloing in my mid twenties is much, much easier than it was as am AR/Dev Blaster.I've always found Devices to be a poorly designed set. By comparison, Traps does a lot of the same things, with added benefit of doing it for the whole team. It also does some far more useful things like the Forcefield Generator and Poison Trap.
A few general comments of my own:
Damage would be nice on Web Grenades (I recommend Smashing) but I think there's a balance issue from the devs end. Technically the lack of damage is supposed to be balanced by the recharge reduction. The problem is that recharge reduction is a poor form of damage mitigation unless you have A LOT of it.
For both Web and Smoke Grenades it should be pretty easy to give them an alternate animation for firing them from an Assault Rifle. For Archery/Devices BABs might be able to make an alternate animation where he throws the grenade with his off hand while holding the bow in his left (similar to some brawl animations). The problem is I suspect that it would require giving all Devices users an Assault Rifle and Bow costume pieces in the tailors regardless of whether they use the alternate animations or not which might cause some issues (can a powerset have two weapons associated with it?). Of course I'm sure that the devs could find a way around these issues if they wanted to.
I disagree with you about Caltrops, it is an AWESOME power, especially if you solo at low levels. It does lose some utility at higher levels and on teams but at low levels it's an excellent way to keep NPCs with high melee damage away from you.
I agree about Taser, although in it's defense I'll note that both AR and Archery have a stun attack so AR/Dev and Arch/Dev both have the optino of stacking stuns to mez a boss. That being said I'm planning to spec out of it on my AR/Dev since the new difficulty setting mean I can gun down large spawns of mooks without having to worry about bosses (I can take bosses without a double stun, but it's slow, largely because AR/Dev has horrible ST damage)
Cloaking Device is a tricky one. The obvious solution would be to increase the defense that it provides but I think increasing it to really noticeable levels would be unbalancing. I like the idea of using it to increase damage but rather than a crit I'd rather see a direct damage boost. This has a couple of advantages. First off it would be extremely easy for the Devs to code (basically change it so Cloaking Device gives a static damage boost which is suppressed for 10 seconds when you attack etc.). Secondly a static damage boost would work with AoEs and most Blasters I know like to open with an AoE (especially in groups). Finally it would make Cloaking Device function as an erstz Build Up power for Devices, instead of a 100% boost for 10 seconds out of every 45 you get say a 30% damage boost on the first attack against every group. I know 30% sounds a bit low but Devices already has the advantage of having Trip Mine. You can place one before every spawn and get a 26.4% damage boost for 7.5seconds so if you combine that with CD you'd get a 56.4% damage bonus on your first AoE against every group (as well as having some close in defense ).
For Trip Mine I would like to see a reduction in cast time to 2s similar to powers like Gas Trap from Traps. Ideally I'd like to remove the interruptable portion but overall I can live with it.
For Time Bomb, I already expressed my views in this thread. To summarize, drastically reduce both the cast time (to 2-4seconds uninterruptable) and the detonation delay (preferably to 0s), give it a 50ft range and possibly lower the damage a bit. Rename it something (Satchel Charge would work, although I like Petard because it's a funny word).
I agree with you on Gun Drone. The damage is awful, but that's to be expected. Under the current timing though it just isn't worth the effort to summon the darned thing. In fact I use it so rarely I'd probably be better off replacing it with Hover purely to use as a mule power. Replacing the six-slotted Thunderstrike with a 3-slotted BotZ and a LotG would give me more defense, a recharge bonus and two slots to put to better use. -
I am currently trying to update Paragon Wiki's information on base items since there is quite a bit that is missing or outdated. I have a few questions that I can't easily verify by myself however so I was hoping that someone here might know the answers.
1. The Improved Igniter badge gives an SG access to the Igniter base defense item. Does it also grant access to the Improved Igneter and elite Igniter or are those avaialble at SG creation?
2. Similarly the Analyzer Base Defense grants access to the Scanner and Analyzer items. Are the Improved and Elite versions of these items also unlocked by the badge or are they available to a new SG?
3. There doesn't seem to be an Improved Energy Beam item despite the presence of both an Energy Beam and an Elite Energy Beam. Is this correct?
4. The wiki lists a several defense items that do not appear in any of my worktables/forges. Were they removed from the game? If they are still available is there a badge to unlock it? And can you tell me what salvage they require? The items in question are the Tesla Cage, the Improved Sapper and the Elite Sapper.
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Quote:I think Cat covered supply pretty well, but I'd like to expand a little on demand. BotZ are VERY popular on high-end builds. They provide in 2 or 3 slots positional defense bonuses that normally require 5 or 6 slots (and most characters have 1 or 2 powers that can take them already). Most people aren't to concerned about keeping set bonuses when exemping down (although some are) and so will tend to purchase the level 50 versions of the other two IOs in the set (which are in much better supply). However for a character who doesn't have natural Kb protection having a Kb protection IO while exemplering is extremely useful. Therefore for a lot of people (myself included) a low level BotZ Kb protection IO is worth the cost to save a slot.Okay, but why would that affect the price? The Trap of the Hunter pieces in Pool C are still considered garbage. Since the usefulness seems identical, aside from positional defense builds, why the huge premium? Are there that many people out there itching for the full set for the defense bonuses??
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Ok, it's possible that this is already in the game somewhere and I'm unable to see it. However, I would like to see the ability to change the color that certain channels are displayed in. Most of the colors are ok but there are a few that clash (notably Team and System) plus the global channels seem to change color every time I log on.
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Dr. Quaterfield and Dr. Huxley seem like they'd make a cute couple.
Also Dr. Huxley mentions that Sara Moore has a bit of a crush on Lt. Col. Flynn and honestly if you read their dialog they do seem to talk to each other about the missions that they give you a lot of the time... -
Quote:You do not have to use the IO system and the only place where the power level of IOs really makes a difference is solo (or very small teams) anyway. Even then you only really notice if you're cranking up the difficulty (and frankly powerset selection makes a lot more difference than enhancements even then).It's all very well saying you don't have to use the recipe system, but the sad truth is.. you do. I mean if you didn't everyones build would be essentially the same & it would probably render certain powersets obsolete for certain tasks both PvE & PvP..
Not to mention I bet it would make some people feel pretty useless if they are on the same team with a character with the same powersets, one decked out with the most expensive IO's - the other having SO's.. one would be far superior than the other at every task.
On a large team you do not notice performance differences between IO'd and non-IO'd builds. In a team environment buffs and debuffs very quickly outstrip the performance of IO bonuses. For example, my blaster has a moderate amount of ranged defense (~26% IIRC) through IOs and on a team this is virtually irrelevant. I'm not planning to be shot at a lot in the first place and suppose the team has a FF defender? He alone will take everyone to the soft cap on defense (not to mention that carrying a few lucks around can boost defense a lot anyway).
The only IO bonus that I can think of that isn't easily overwhelmed by buffs is Recharge. A perma-hasten build will have something like 180% recharge (including IOs and Hasten) whereas even Adrenalin Boost only adds 100% recharge and Speed Boost adds a measly 50%. Even then the bonus isn't as significant as it looks, the primary benefit of more recharge on a team is to get powerful team buffs (RAs, AM, ML etc.) up for more time and unless you keep a stopwatch to time how often the emp kicks off an RA you're unlikely to notice the difference.
When it comes to team building selection of ATs and Powersets matters a lot more than IOs. If I was told that my team could have either a Rad defender with SOs or an Empath with a purpled out IO build I'd take the Rad every single time. Yes a Rad with IOs would be slightly more powerful than a Rad with SOs but I am unlikely to either notice and don't particularly care. -
Yep, CoH was the first MMO I played seriously and it spoiled me rotten. I tried playing WoW and while I did level a character almost to 80 and greatly enjoyed the storyline coming back to CoH was a relief (especially being able to Super Jump across a zone in no time and being able to fight multiple enemies at once). Also teaming tools in CoH are wonderful compared to WoW, I can search for characters without regard to where they are and I don't need to worry about their spec.
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I don't really have any interest in building relationships between my characters. However I do have one borderline case. I have an AR/Dev Blaster and a Traps/AR Defender who story wise are the same person in two different suits of power armor.
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This. Maybe I spend to much time on TVTropes but using ship now seems perfectly normal to me . In fact I think almost every entry on TVTropes with ship the title is about shipping. The only exception I can recall off hand is Failed to Pay Shipping Charges (which could be used as the title for a shipping related page if people wanted)
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Quote:The EATs are not intrinsically more powerful than other ATs. The two Arachnos ones (Soldiers and Widows) do have a very unusual selection of abilities which make them both strong at soloing and popular on teams. They have good damage but also get access to a number of buffs and debuffs that will help a team. For example they have their own version of the Leadership powers which are cheaper to run, more powerful (at least Maneuvers is) and can be doubled up with regular Leadership powers if they have the power slots to spare.basically I have been gone for a bit, and came back my cousin was using my account while I was away and there's a bunch of toons on here, 3 of them are the classes I listed, when I left those 2 arcanos ones were not around yet. so I wondered were they added? or were they like the jedi class pre cu in swg where they are the alpha class meaning a bit more powerful then the regular 5 classes for villians and heroes?
sorry I know these questions are a bit dumb, but I am trying to catch back up in a game I have not played in a long time. -
Quote:Basically Assault Rifle and Archery are the two primaries with the best AoEs (primarily because their T9 has a 60second recharge and no crash). Mental Manipulation adds Psychic Scream as an additional strong AoE as well as several other useful powers.Don't want to derail, but a few people have mentioned Archery/Mind as a powerful build, and one I've never considered, so I went looking for a Guide and couldn't find one in Guides/Blasters/Primaries.
Can anyone point me to one, or talk a little about what makes the Archery/Mind blaster so powerful?
Archery tends to be favored over Assault Rifle for farming since it has Aim and RoA is a bit easier to line up than FA in outdoor maps. The only real advantage of AR over Archery is Flamethrower but the fact that it's a DoT tends to be offputting for farmers. -
Freespec is a term that is used to differentiate between the two different types of respecs, earned repecs come from Vet rewards, the trials and for villains the patron arc. Freespecs are everything else.
Technically Freespec means "respec that is not stackable and is accessed through the /respec commands rather than the normal respec contact". It should probably have a better name but it's called a freespec because the most common source are the free respecs given out with new issues. -
Quote:Yes, but it's zero magnitude and doesn't actually do anything.Don't hostages still give that [Negative Stealth] power that cancels all stealth while you have them anyway?
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Quote:Honestly, I wouldn't particularly care if the devs decided to reduce the number of melee ATs (but then I don't particularly enjoy playing any of them). From a group recruitment point of view I pretty much break the ATs down into Damage (Melee), Damage (Ranged) and Support. The only one that I actually focus on recruiting is Support, for the others I'll take whomever shows up in response to announcements in Globals or Broadcast. I like at least one Melee AT just because the players tend to be more comfortable taking point but if I don't get one I'll take point myself.That's kind of a loaded argument, though. What's the point of having Scrappers, Brutes AND Tankers when they share the exact same powersets for the most part, under that logic? The answer is that their AT modifiers plus their inherents make the ATs sufficiently diverse. It's all well and good to guess how hard balancing such a thing would be, but we shouldn't really make the final step and claim it would be impossible or pointless, because ultimately neither I nor you are actually responsible for the balance of the thing.
Quote:And you very much could not make a Mastermind set with just a single pet any more so than you could make a Stalker set without an Assassin's Strike. All the Mastermind sets have a very rigidly designed structure, with only the henchmen being different between them. Well, that and a single power. But each Mastermind set has three summons, three attacks, two upgrades and one "other" power. It's what a "Henchman" set is.
Quote:The question with new ATs doesn't come down to filling in any imaginary roles (seriously, let's get away from the tank, healer, damage dealer trio), but rather about creating character frameworks that are new and interesting to play. There are still a lot of these left to add, should the developers be so inclined. -
Quote:My comment was more directed at the MM with one more powerful pet than the MM with support pets since I think a powerset focusing on support pets would be problematic without a major overhaul of pet AI since support powers tend to require significant care in their application. But even for the support pet I tend to disagree with your disagreement. A MM with support oriented pets would be doable. The devs would simply need to reduce the number of pet related powers in the powerset (say 3 max), and add in more blasts (so a total of 6 attacks). You'd end up with something akin to a defender with weaker attacks but a wider selection of buffs (and the weaker attacks can be compensated for by either by just giivng the atttacks a higher than correct base damage or [preferably] designing the pets around themes that include buffing damage or debuffing resistance).I'd have to disagree. Giving Masterminds a set of Support oriented pets would completely alter their damage output, making them practically impossible to solo, which is a situation in which they currently shine.
Adding a set like that would be a radical deviation from the normal performance of the archetype.
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Are you sure it's not just a speed thing? The hostages move pretty slowly so even with just sprint and swift you can easily leave them behind. SS would just make that worse.
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Quote:Actually the current hostages seem to detect you through stealth just fine. My Blaster has full PvE stealth and I have never had any problems with hostages following me despite keeping it turned on all the time.I have a celerity in swift on one of my toons, and it does make it a pain to solo hostage missions. However, there are ways to unstealth, one is by exemping below swift (now 5 levels below swift), and now a much easier way is to [Walk] it off, although it will turn back on the moment you stop walking.
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Quote:I do a bit of both and in general I think you're correct that the recipes thing is a little more profitable (and importantly requires less starting capital than flipping). The downside is it requires more time spent at WWs since the range of vendorable recipes is a lot larger than the list of salvage than can be profitably flipped.Personally, I prefer vendoring recipes from the market for this. Not so much when you have a recipe inventory of 4, but once you get to about 10, it's great for immediate money in the 400k range - and you can be in control of how quickly your items sell, if not how quickly you can buy them...
The other thing to keep in mind is that flipping salvage is a good way to get the first few badges notably Scrounger and Merchant for more salvage storage and an extra market slot. -
So far I've bought all of the premium content except for the wedding pack. GvE, the Superscience Booster and the Martial Arts Super Booster were all primarily purchased for the new powers (counting the improved tailor from Science as a power).
The Cyborg and Magic Boosters were primarily purchased for the costume parts (although the Mystic Fortune power is very useful). I tend to lean towards Tech and Magic origin characters so they are both pretty useful.
The mac edition I purchased for both the powers and the costume pieces (the shoulders in particular I've used on several characters).
In general I think that as long as they continue combining powers and costume pieces in each pack I'll probably find something to make them worth buying. Unlike other people the extra emotes don't really interest me since I don't RP.