Zyphoid

When you say weapons, do you mean weapon models, or the animations used by the weapon powers?

I love new weapon models, but not even the amazing Barbarian Sword was enough to get me to play boring Broad Sword again.

Ever wonder if they speak this way in person. I don't mean the rude portion, I mean the use of a large vocabulary.

To my knowledge he only plays on Tri, but I am sure he will speak up here soon. I keep trying to get him and the rest of HUB to come Vir and meet new people, but they are stubborn. I love the people on Tri, they are like this community that lives in the great location. They just don't see how all of the surrounding neighborhoods being Gang Land is a bad thing, so they are not leaving!

Also, I run on Virtue, and I have yet to be told I can't bring anything to any trial I want to run.

The newer options look pretty awesome.

I don't think we have reached the line yet. I agree there is a line somewhere that we should not cross, I just don't think we are there yet. I have several reasons for that.

1. We can scale our missions to challenge our selves. We get to set the difficulty. If anything it is time to add some higher settings to it.

2. We have no clue what they have planed for the future. Look at the DA mobs using a better version of TW (because it has a ranged attack). There is still content that can make even the most elite of us struggle.

3. We have the ability to limit ourselves. Think your TW toon is OP, but still fun to play? Then don't take any blues, leave the inspiration bar closed.

you are correct though, I do want my characters to have an absurd levle of power, but I want them to face threats that warrant that level of power.

In seeing what the devs are doing, I think their plan is to give us those challenges.

On a personal note: I have a lvl 50 +3 TW/EA brute. It is the most painful toon I have to play in any incarnate content. Wanna know what I have always thought was broken in this game? Controllers, but you never see me calling for them to be nerfed.

Or something worse.

You are right though, they are scaling up the bad guys. The threat is growing, and the heroes need to grow to meet it. That's all I am saying. I have a feeling that even if they scale us back, they will not scale the bad guys back. I do like the idea of us all being like GL corps, or super man in space at some point. That would be fun to me.

Yeah, that was not my intention. But you do seem to want a far less powerful character than I would enjoy playing. I have no clue how long you have played this game, but I promise it is more fun now than in Jack's time

No, that level of power should be the exception. TW is not super awesome sauce on just SO's. Add in IO sets, and incarnates and it is a beast. As the game is balanced around SO, then the TW with SOs should be the norm, and TW with sets should be the exception.

or

The devs can start to balance powers around characters who are going to be using IO sets. I don't think that would go over to well though.


What I am saying is that TW is not OP if slotted with only SO's. I can see where after a heavy IO build, and incarnate powers it is OP, but by that point shouldn't it be at that level of power to face the threats it will be taking on?

Yeah we do disagree flat out. You fit much better with Jack's Vision.

For the record, Scrappers do not need a buff. They need something unique that is theirs. Tankers and Blasters DO very much need a buff.

I would rather move forward, because that is what super heroes do. I played Hero System Table top for years (over 20 actually) and I was always reaching for that cosmic level of power. That greatness that would allow me to single highhandedly save the world. I feel like I am getting that slowly now in this game.

The comment on the regen nerf was below the belt man. There were ten ways to fix the problem (there was a problem by the way) and they chose the very worst one. They chose one that completely changed the way the set played. That was just a bad call on their part. Regen did need to be brought down, but not shattered as it was. I also think the current game would no more than raise an eyebrow at the old regen. There would be no parking in the new DA, getting a sandwich, and coming back still alive.

I do think TW, and StJ are fin for where this game is headed (space it seems). I also think that the older sets (including the blaster sets) could use some buffs. Sure there has to be a stopping point, I just don't think we have reached it yet. Dang, we are still stuck in one city on one planet. There is all of the ocean and outer space to grow in to.

Um, look again, I said blasters DO need buffs.

Different things push different buttons in different people. He happened to hit two of mine. Calling for nerfs, and what I took to be a personal insult over the internet.

Nerf Herders are what got Regen gutted, and no I will never get over it. My main and name sake is retired because he is no longer fun to play.

TW is a cool set, and Reppu stated it was over powered and needed to be nerfed.

Sure it is a great set, with a good IO build to manage the end usage and recharge issues it has. Play it with SO's and see what you thing.

Let's take a look at another set people say is over powered Shield Def. Awesome set, I have 2 /SD scrappers at level 50. They both sucked till I put IOs in them. I even asked "When does SD get as good as everyone says it is?" the reply was "When you put IOs in it."

Sets like TW, StJ, and Staff are the future of this game. So why not bring the old sets in line with the new vision? That includes sets from all of the ATs.

I am not sure how long many of you have been here, the best I can do is go by reg date, and those are unreliable. I know I played for about 3-6 months before I joined the boards.

Any way, there was a time when the lead dev stated that each hero should only be equal to 3 minions. That was his vision for this game. Well, we the players did not find that vision fun and found ways to rebel. Which is where things like dumpster diving came in. Which brought even more nerfs.

The current dev team has not only turned out some of the best powers ever, they have also attempted to correct the mistakes of the past.

In the end it boils down to what you call balance, is not the same as what I call balance, or what Jack called balance. We are not going to see eye to eye on this. I will be happy when I can solo the STF, chump LR, and the head to space to defend the planet from the Battalion because I am just that bad ***. That is the balance I want in a super hero game.

So, if giving scrappers something unique throws the nonexistent balance even further out the window, IDC any more.

Dude you just don't get it. The game is balanced around characters using SOs. Which means those who do not use SO are so far above the balance point that there is little point to arguing balance.

Also, calling me stupid is a fast way for me to call you a name that would get me banned. How about we speak to each other as if we were face to face. Calling me stupid to my face may not be a good idea. I may take that personal.

Blasters DO NEED to be buffed. No one is really arguing that any more are they? It is better to accept that the game is headed in a new direction where we are actually SUPER HEROES, and not dudes who are equal to 3 even con minions. I like this, I play this game to be a super hero. If I wanted more realism, I would be playing another game.

Sadly those do not stop you from getting nuked by the idiot who didn't.

UG is poorly designed, Arcanaville made that clear multiple times. I think at some point it will get another reevaluation like Keys did.

I have to heartily disagree with +1. Because +1 means no Destiny, which means no way to deal with the idiotic confuse at the end of the trial. I hate the UG with a passion even though I think it is the best looking environment in the game. The tile sets, and mobs in the mission are just beautifully done. However the last encounter is so frustrating to me that I doubt I will ever run it again now that my main has the badges. Oh, he is t4 all the way, and it was still a pain.

Spines is the set for you then.

Really it depended on the mission type. Nothing could stealth a mission faster than a stalker.

Now I would say 3 of them are neck in neck. Brutes, Stalkers, and Scrappers are about even.

All motives aside, I am not sure the current stalker changes were tested enough, and by enough people. I love them as they are now, no doubt, but I am not sure all of the buffs they have seen over the years stacked on top of each other is not too much. Add in the ATIO proc and I think they pull ahead of scrappers and brutes a little.

I know that is not going to be popular coming from me, and I want to be clear that I am NOT saying they need to be nerfed. They are fun, and that is what is important about the AT. For the first time ever I am really torn as to what my next toon will be, and Staff/EA Scrapper or Stalker. I like that it is a hard choice.

Outside of wanting something unique for scrappers, I think increasing the crit chance in the Scrapper ATIO would bring it back in line. The Brute and Stalker ATIO procs just seem to give a better benefit to me.

None of that would solve that scrappers have nothing unique of course.

Yeah that is kinda how the original conversation went with Synapse and I. The thing about the store is that you could pick and choose what is worth it to you, and what isn't.

I love that about the store, it makes it seem like there are so many more possibilities.

It is what Freedom has taught us though. Look at the stuff we have gotten in the game since Freedom. I remember the gap between i7 and i8. It sucked! Now we have had so ton of power sets in the last year, I love it. I am willing to pay for what I want.

I would bet they could find a way. Where is money, there is always a way. :P

Yeah I was a bit miffed about that. That was another part of Jack's team's doing back in the day. A blaster's defense is range, to counter this we are giving EVERY enemy in the game a ranged attack, even if it makes no sense that they would have one.


I love the idea of losing Confront. I would love to see a poll of how many Scrappers actually take that power. I took it once to stop runners, then I discovered that it doesn't do that, so I had to run a boring *** respec trial to drop it. This was back before the butt ton of vet respecs I now have.

I don't.