Techbot Alpha

So very this

...Except those are the official names for them.
The enhancement numbers of TOs originate from Training. And the enhancement numbers of IOs come from the new invention you just made. Same as HOs coming from Hamidon.

So...yes, there very much is such a thing if even the Devs say it

Yeah, you've never played Praetoria thats on live at the moment... Because something must have broken a while back to make the above no longer true.

I see you've never been to Praetoria, citizen.

You are quite right, I forgot about that.

Its still only one enemy out of a whole mob, though

So, while you placate one member of the mob, what do you plan to do about the other members who you cannot placate? Because of it being an ST effect?

Ask them nicely not to shoot at you?
I don't think you understand just how huge a hole there in in your 'logic' here. Placate works on ONE enemy. Ambushes are never ONE enemy. The other enemies can still SEE you. And they can and will SHOOT you. And that then means that one enemy can also see you again. Meaning you just wasted a power.

Do you notice how the mobs you mention are ALL end-game mobs? For facing characters with their full arsenal of powers and SO slotted as a baseline?
Not 1-20 rookies that only get DOs in the latter 1/3 of that level range and have less than half of each powerset.

Having NPCs that counter already weak aspects (regen, defences, mez) is called Overkill. And, for once, it does exist.

It's possible for people who run x8 every day to get 40 shards. And thats IF the RNG is kind to them. If its not, they might get 20, or even 10.

And again, your leaving out the sacrifice element of it.
Player A has 40 shards, as does Player B. Player A does the WST and gets their Notice. They now have that AND 40 shards to use, and have made no loss.
Player B uses 40 shards to get the Notice from the recipe. They now have only the notice. If they need shards to craft more components of the Favour for example, they'll now have to get them again.

The WST gives a reward with nothing being taken away.
The conversion is just that, an exchange. I know which one I would see as preferable 100% of the time.


Edit:
This is also true.

Bolded for emphasis. With FPS, it is something you can 'train' for, learn up on and improve every time. Your reactions will get faster, you get better at spotting things out of place, you learn the maps, etc etc.

With an MMO, you can do all that, I mostly have done all that, and it still won't matter; I'm entirely at the mercy of the RNG. And in Praetoria it doubly doesn't matter, because the NPCs simply have better numbers than I can have at 1-20.

Yup. At least I don't mind when my Assault Bot runs in to flamer stuff and NPCs run up to melee him.
I think it was a Boss fight once. I imagine the exchange being something like;

Boss: Ahh! My ranged attacks aren't working and I'm nearly done! Fine! You've made me come over there-!
Omega 1: Hello. Kindly submit to Defeat.
Boss: Oh mother!
Gigantic robotic arm decends, POW, crumpled Boss


Would still love an option to trade in all 3 minion level pets to buff the Assault Bot to EB levels

Especially these days, on my Emp/Psi fender, I find myself wishing I could simply take more armour and more AoE buffs. Heck, even trading entire powers for +recharge. Because I do so little damage, wether AoE or ST, and I have to flick back and forth between buffing and hitting, I literally end up targetting something thta is dead two seconds later. Thats how fast things die; I may as well not bother.

Still, I do bother. It's fun actually more damage to stuff with res against all except Psi

I'd be for that, and did indeed advocate the cooldown on the recipe as well. Having a weeks cooldown would be best, IMO, because it will still take a longer time to get 40 shards or so as opposed to one TF/SF. Just because something would be available instantly on the next week cycle doesn't mean people would automatically have what they need.

The sink nature of the recipe also makes the WTF a more attractive option by default; you get something extra, rather than having to sacrifice something instead.

I still want to make an 8 Sonic/Sonic defender team with all the members dressed as Angels, led by the Conductor of the Mid-Harmonic Chorus. Judgement from on High, Hallelujah, mutha-*****

QFT. RPers will happily bumble on with whatever it is we get up to. I have some characters sat in the 30s and 40s who are, IC, already nearly at full power. I have a shed load of alts, however, so their levelling is a little slow at times. That honestly doesn't matter, though.

Alpha is the only one it actually matters on, and mostly the AoE Judgement attack, to finally replicate Reason, his orbital-translocational Railcannon platform

True. Theres a lot of people who buy them only fpr the PvP, and never touch the single player. I was actually one of those when I got Bad Company 2, because I wasn't overly fond of the PvE (Cheating A.I.) but I loved the PvP

CoD tends to suffer from really derpy A.I. allies and ludicrously intuitive and infinite spawning Enemies, so that's actually a good parallel for Praetoria

If your dying that bad on Halo on Easy-Normal...eh...sorry to break it to you, but you just plain suck
(On Legendary though, that's to be expected. Legendary is eeeeevil....)

Close. More like buying a car when you have a bank balance of, say, two million.

When they balance dips below 1.5, they suddenly come along and take off the wheels and steal your keys. And when you get back to 2 million, they suddenly give them back.

It's just stupid, and ultimately pointless. I think this entire discussion has just degraded into 'How much punishment are you willing to take and what funny ideas can we come up with to make people rage' from certain people...

....That is an utterly, utterly horrible idea. Theres no precedent. It makes no mechanical or in-game sense. It an abitrary and ultimately stupid 'incentive' that is less incentive and more outright penalty.

No. No, it really does not work that way. I've played Stalkers, I've used placate a crapton, and it does NOT work that way.

Placate
Ranged, ST, Foe Placate, Self Stealth/Hide

The Placate effect is an ST effect. It affects one (1) Target. It will NOT affect any other targets, and if you have aggro they will continue to attack you. As SOON as you take damage, from any source, your hide/stealth is broken, even to the foe you previously placated, and you can be attacked by them again. Since the other enemies are not effected anyway, they can keep attacking you for as long as they need as soon as they come into range.

So, sure, you can still run. And the ambushes will follow you. You can run past other spawns just fine. That will not magically stop the ambushes from following, firing on you as soon as in range because they flat out ignore stealth, and getting to you. End the hell of.


Fairly fast. And then what happens if you need it again? You have to wait for the inordinately long recharge. And if thats your only option left, you die.

Ahh, that would be it. I knew there were differences, but I've never been much of a numbers person.

I just notice when I go from decent levels of play to suddenly munching concrete flooring an inordinate ammount of time.

We're going to need to agree to diagree, again. Because I cannot disagree with that, and using Inf in the crafting of a Notice, strongly enough.