For real, your sorry?!

yep. California, Florida, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin. It didnt happen in any of those sates. Vermont being the only one that states that you must aid a victim.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Nope, his situation, his problem. Plus outside those ten states in my prior post, there is no law that says a person must render aid to a victim.

--An accessory is a person who assists in the commission of a crime, but who does not actually participate in the commission of the crime as a joint principal.

Maybe if anything a witness to a crime and I dont think that is the against the law either.


But you think I would make a good NCSoft exec?

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Even in states where a case might be made, I imagine it would amount to criminal negligence.

nah, for that, there would have to be an actus reus (guilty act) aka me doing a crime that put a person in harms way or ending up with someone injured. Which could have been possible if there was a duty to rescue law, but there is not and thus no activity on my part that wasa crime that caused negligent harm to that person. He got himself into a situation and I chose not to get involved not one bit.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Hence the qualifier "even in states where a case might be made".

Of course, the fact that it was allegedly not illegal doesn't change that it is debatably unethical - the latter, of course, being more important to some than to others.

yeah

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

I'm not sure how much of this is you being real and how much is trolling for reaction, but either way it is depressing as ****.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

If it's not a fabrication, then I would take solace in the fact that such a person maintains a largely more constructive than destructive position in society.

If it is a fabrication, then it's just another mote of dust on the digital wind and not worth wasting any real emotion on.

This would be a bit counter productive I think,if they are on your porch and on fire there is a good possibility that your house will burn down and you with it as you are quite prepared to sit and watch them burn, and all because someone is checking spelling mistakes,perhaps they are a teacher by profession and cannot get out of the habitI,m awfully glad I use the spell checker and have a dictionary close by when I,m typing messages for the forums

With that sort of attitude what is your real life job Loan Shark comes to mind

Judging from the mention of "code" in context, I was thinking a government inspector of some sort. Possibly involving health, safety, or building codes.

Probably grocery store bagger. I seen a few like that. Or a cop. At least around here in penciltucky anyway.. Frickin' hate this state...

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My impression was more specifically that he's a restaurant health code inspector.

As for that part... he did seem to be rather proud of the fact that he'll crush someone's business for not being up to code, regardless of their circumstances. I can't really say that a bureaucrat is either constructive or destructive, just that the occupation has an array of pros and cons several times longer than those of most other businesses.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

in the UK people like this have a special title"Jobsworth"

Obstructive and or...yeah...Man, LOTs of people in this state are like that. I always say to the wife, it is like a different country as soon as you cross the mason dixon line...People in maryland are so much nicer...but they arent very nice either, so says so much for this state..

I'm certain there have been instances where I'm doing my job and people would apply that term or terms with a similar sentiment to me (I've actually been referred to as "Hitler" for refusing to haggle over rates). However, most of those people were - or likely were - trying to get away with something/get something for nothing. I've found that the sentimentality that is evoked in order to manipulate me in such an instance is only worth as much as the trust/respect that the person evoking it has earned - which, in most cases, is nil or less.

Were I in a position responsible for enforcing rules governing public health and safety, sentimentality would have even less place.

This worries and saddens me

People think it's great leaders that change history for the better. They are wrong. What changes history for the better is countless small acts of kindness.

Apologising with a smile if you bump into someone in the street. Waiting at a junction to let another motorist or pedestrian out with a wave of the hand. Stopping to pick up and return something that a struggling burdened shopper has dropped.

You cannot put a price on such acts, and here's the best part - they're contagious. It costs you nothing to stop and help in a small way, but the person you're helping will remember. Maybe their day has been utterly awful to that point, but out of the blue this one small act of kindness by a stranger lifts them up just a little.

So they go off with that in their heart and, if you're lucky, they pay that kindness forward themself, and so it spreads.

But here's the bad part - the FLIPSIDE is also true. If you're mean, cruel or even indifferent to someone, then they will remember that and begin to believe that everyone is mean, cruel or indifferent.

I happen to know that society is full of good people. Sure, the scaremongering news media would have you believe otherwise, but it's always wise to remember that something only make the news if it's aberrant. The everyday isn't 'news'. So yes, society is actually full of good people. The reason I know this for a certainty is because society is still here. If society was made up entirely of bad people, none of us would be here having this conversation now.

So logically, the balance is in favour of good over bad. And for my part, I intend to keep pushing society towards good, one small act of kindness at a time.

If someone insults me, it may have nothing to do with me at all. It may be because they've had a bad day - or even that someone insulted them earlier. I don't want to be in the position where an insult I give to someone finds itself transferred to some other poor person later, so I don't insult people. I can't possibly know anything about that person, or what life they have to put up with, or why they may be in a foul mood that day...but what I can do is not make their day worse. And if I can make their day better, then maybe - just maybe - that will help the world to be better. Eventually.

The meek won't inherit the Earth - they already own it, they're just too polite and unassuming to say so

Actually if you were using French you would have said "b aiseur".



Edit: Oh btw, I didn't criticize your grammar or spelling. I criticized the quality of your attempted insult. Seriously that's the best you can do? It reads like something a sexually frustrated teenager that gets his head shoved into toilets would say.

Yep.

You think the establishment owner will come to the aid when fish hit the shan? Think they are going to say "Well they only let me pass because I begged them to allow me to stay open. It's all my fault." Nope, more the case is more often "Well see the inspector said I passed. If I was doing something wrong, they should of wrote it down." Seen a lot of fellow co-workers trying to be sentimental and end up getting burnt and the establisment owner did not even bother to send an apology for the troubles letter or anything. It was buisness as usual for them and the co-workers now are in the unemployment line for trying to put sentimentality before the code.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

The code is the law. If they are within code, they go on as usual. If not and the code says in the situation that they must close, of course, then they will have to close and no matter how many tears, pleas, money, food, sob stories offered, they will close. If they dont want to be in that situation, stay within the code.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

I believe that good people may exist but dont seem like many people are willing to show it, that is until something happens that hits home. It's like a millionaire who wife dies of cancer. Prior, he never gave a single dime to any charity but now that it affects him personally all of a sudden he becomes the leading philan. to cancer preventing researc hin the world. If his wife would have never died, he would have never given a crap even though if he was giving to the reseach earlier, maybe they could of used that money to find the proper cure for it and she'd still be alive. Until some people are put into a situation, they dont care or have a very odd way of showing that they care about other people, espcially on this board, where there people supposedly from different areas, age ranges, backgrounds and etc. and yet still, have no regards for others. All they care about is being right and proving people wrong. There are probably some good people on this board but most, like in real life, remain silent.

In real life I seen the same thing. I just stopped caring about it and minding my own buisness and stopped caring about people who could care less about me. At least the relationship is balanced and mutual instead of one sided.



I dont even bother watching the news.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

Like I said, I believed it when you said that you're good at your job. Just don't go thinking that being good at your job also means you're a good person. I couldn't do your job, because I don't have the stomach to throw someone out in the cold, even if not doing so resulted in my own dismissal.



Speaking of which, I'm in a state of limbo at my part-time job right now because I refused an order from my manager to sneak hidden charges onto customer returns. I didn't refuse to make those charges, mind you; I refused to do so without telling the customer first, which is expressly required by the corporate policy. My boss's reasoning is that telling the customers about the charges lowers efficiency and makes transactions take too long.

Of course, she made this demand the day after HER supervisor, the district manager, went on extended leave. So until he gets back, I get no hours unless I agree to do something both immoral and explicitly against policy. I can't even transfer to another location unless the DM approves it first.

Originally Posted by Nethergoat it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!

Nope, I'm just a person. Nothing more nothing less. Ask one person I'm great person, ask another, I'm the scum of the earth and it all depends on their mood, how they feel whether I like the same political party as they do and show up at their kid's birthday party or forget to visit to visit them in hospital and etc. It's all irrelevant. In the end it wont matter not a single bit.


If you care about people then you can do the job. Remember that you are actually saving/protecting hundreds and in some cases, thousands of people's health and lives by ensuring that the establishment is the cause of illnesses. People still die from various types of food-borne diseases more often then you think. That is the mindset probably of most of us.

Ever seen pics of nasty food places and wonder how in the world or why no one addressed the issue until people died and or news cameras got a hold of it? That is a sign that someone in my field wasnt doing their job properly. When a case like that happens, it usually spells the end of that establishment, loss of faith in our job field, and still the establisment owner still will have to close down and probably never be able to open again due to lost customers and bad reputation, people get ill and die, and still someone usually the person who did the shabby job of enforcement still gets fired. Compared to being hated in the morning and maybe closing down a place, owner lossing money, and no one getting sick or dying and staying out the media meaning they have greater chance of cleaning up their reputation, and you keeping your job.

Originally Posted by mauk2 Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words. "Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L!

This made my day.


People, can we please stop quoting Evil_Legacy? Quotes defeat my /ignore setting. Better yet, can we just stop replying to her at all?

Couldn't care less...if they could care less then they care for you at least a little bit. We don't want people thinking that they care about you or that you care about them caring about you or not caring. Because, well...you don't care and we don't want that misinformation getting out.