Guild Wars 2 Killed City of Heroes!
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Posted on: 2012-08-31 16:25 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
What? Am I the only one who sees this?
No. NCSoft killed COH.
GW2 may have taken more funding than needed or something - but the blame lands squarely on the folks at NCSoft corporate.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
No. NCSoft killed COH.
GW2 may have taken more funding than needed or something - but the blame lands squarely on the folks at NCSoft corporate. |
I think they wanted to push people to their new game so the eliminated the most primary competition with themselves they had.
DnD did the same thing when they came out with 4th ed. They stopped ALL pdf sales of their old material.
Personally, due to the way NCSoft pulled the rug out from under Paragon Studios like this, I, for one, will never play an NCSoft product again. (Well, 'never' is a strong word. Let's just say it would take major new management, rehiring many of the Paragon Studios folks in other parts of the company -- or at least OFFERING them a place elsewhere, etc...)
I -was- interested in some of the other games in the NCSoft stable, especially GW2 and Wildstar (or whatever it is called).... but now... they ain't getting any more of my money if I realize that money is going to NCSoft.
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I know Planetside 1 was an NC Soft game, is Planet Side 2 one as well?
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Originally Posted by Thrillseeker
Personally, due to the way NCSoft pulled the rug out from under Paragon Studios like this, I, for one, will never play an NCSoft product again. (Well, 'never' is a strong word. Let's just say it would take major new management, rehiring many of the Paragon Studios folks in other parts of the company -- or at least OFFERING them a place elsewhere, etc...)
I -was- interested in some of the other games in the NCSoft stable, especially GW2 and Wildstar (or whatever it is called).... but now... they ain't getting any more of my money if I realize that money is going to NCSoft. |
Apparently you can't buy GW2 currently because they've had some massive phishing issue that's compromised their database. Never seen a game come pre-hacked before. 
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I'm pretty sure Planetside is an SOE game and always has been.
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Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk
I know Planetside 1 was an NC Soft game, is Planet Side 2 one as well?
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Originally Posted by Ironik
Apparently you can't buy GW2 currently because they've had some massive phishing issue that's compromised their database. Never seen a game come pre-hacked before.
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lmao!
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Planetside is actually SOE....
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Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk
I know Planetside 1 was an NC Soft game, is Planet Side 2 one as well?
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I don't think it killed it. I do think ArenaNet will be next once the holidays are over. I can't see NCSoft continue to invest in MMO development that only succeeds in NA and Europe. I also suspect that Wildstar will not see the light of beta.
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Did you make that up yourself? Or just believe some random dude on Twitter?|
Originally Posted by Ironik
Apparently you can't buy GW2 currently because they've had some massive phishing issue that's compromised their database. Never seen a game come pre-hacked before.
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There is a lot of phishing going on, but it's only affecting those dumb enough to click links on emails or who use the same email/pwd for multiple sites/games.
If you read what Arenanet have actually said, they've suspended direct digital sales because the servers are full and they want to slow the number of new users. You can still buy the game from 3rd party retailers however.
I know you're bitter about the end of this game, but seriously, take the time to verify the random nonsense you see flying round the internet before you post.
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Originally Posted by Thrillseeker
Personally, due to the way NCSoft pulled the rug out from under Paragon Studios like this, I, for one, will never play an NCSoft product again. (Well, 'never' is a strong word. Let's just say it would take major new management, rehiring many of the Paragon Studios folks in other parts of the company -- or at least OFFERING them a place elsewhere, etc...)
I -was- interested in some of the other games in the NCSoft stable, especially GW2 and Wildstar (or whatever it is called).... but now... they ain't getting any more of my money if I realize that money is going to NCSoft. |
I am not buying any NCSOFT products.
I havn't bought a single Wizards of the Coast product since the 4E debacle. I may not be much but I am one thing, and that is a consumer who in conscientious of where I spend my money.
I Can Vote With My Wallet, whats more I might just start on direct competitors to NCSOFT especially if the Paragon Studios alumni are involved.
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They chose to focus on GW2 and other games rather than keep CoH alive.
They made a wrong choice.
Now you have a gaming community where the majority will never play another NCsoft game again.
And yes, in a way NCsoft killed CoH FOR GW2 and therefore in some ways GW2 killed CoH. Perspective.
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I cannot believe people are seriously blaming GW2...
GW2 is not even made by NCsoft, it's only published by them JUST LIKE CITY OF HEROES.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Actually, the CoH is running at least another two months, and doing something like this is more likely to drive former players away from all other NCsoft titles. IMO NCsoft did a "refocusing of their core priorities" bit to show they were doing something about their recent losses and killing CoH is partially a demonstration of their commitment to their new priorities. (That's my guess.)
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Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk
Yeah I said it!
They want us to run to GW2, so the canned CoH only a mere 3 days after GW2 started. -MCM |
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Ah, NCSoft owns ArenaNet since 2002, just like they own Paragon Studio except ArenaNet is identified in NCSoft's financials as a separate overseas subsidiary just like NC Europe and NC Interactive (the NA division).
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
I cannot believe people are seriously blaming GW2...
GW2 is not even made by NCsoft, it's only published by them JUST LIKE CITY OF HEROES. |
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Have you seen the numbers for GW2? They certainly didn't need to push people to play it.
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Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk
No I don't think so.
I think they wanted to push people to their new game so the eliminated the most primary competition with themselves they had. DnD did the same thing when they came out with 4th ed. They stopped ALL pdf sales of their old material. |
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Let's not point fingers at other games. Guild Wars 2 is a no sub game, they didn't need to push people to it. Canceling one game with subscription fees and a market filled with many money sinks to get people to one with no sub fee and few money sinks (which can be circumvented with in-game gold) is not a sound business plan.
Will people go to the other Super Heroes MMO ?
I've played the other 2 out there, and they can't really compete.
And I have a bad feeling about the next one coming from on of the 2 largest comics companies.
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The next one is more like Diablo than an actual MMO.
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Originally Posted by Spinomania
Will people go to the other Super Heroes MMO ?
I've played the other 2 out there, and they can't really compete. And I have a bad feeling about the next one coming from on of the 2 largest comics companies. |
This theory has made the most sense so far, so it may not be NCSoft's fault.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=295841
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I couldn't agree more.
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Originally Posted by Mad_Cow_Milk
Yeah I said it!
They want us to run to GW2, so the canned CoH only a mere 3 days after GW2 started. -MCM |
All this does is drive people AWAY from GW2. The Anet people are probably shaking their heads in disappointment over this. Not only does it focus the ire (undeservedly) on them from a bunch of grieving gamers (and gamers hold LONG grudges and are VERY vocal - hello NGE!) but it must hang over them like a Sword of Damocles that even if they're doing well and making money, NCSoft may simply pull the plug without notice.
This is the worst publicity that could hit in GW2's first week, and frankly NCSoft are stupid on SO many levels for doing it this way, not least of which is that their timing actually hurts GW2. If they wanted to "trick" people into moving to GW2, why would they do this in the first week instead of waiting for a bunch of gamers to buy the game to test it out, THEN dropping the bomb on CoH after GW2 had been up a couple months. Think a little instead of kneejerking your conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
I cannot believe people are seriously blaming GW2...
GW2 is not even made by NCsoft, it's only published by them JUST LIKE CITY OF HEROES. |
Doing this at this time was BAD for GW2, not good. GW2 has no sub fee, they just need you to buy the box. Pissing off a bunch of gamers before they even get a chance to buy it was the stupidest thing imaginable.
Oh, and as for the "coming pre-hacked" shot? The people who got hacked were stupid enough to either click a phishing email or to use the same password they use on other unsecure sites like fan forums and whatnot. It has nothing to do with Anet's security, just idiots who use "password123" as their password.
Yeah I said it!
They want us to run to GW2, so the canned CoH only a mere 3 days after GW2 started.
-MCM