preliminary beam rifle/rad build: smart people, please help!
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Canine,
Posted on: 2012-08-19 15:36 in Corruptors
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I can't speak for the Rad Emission side of things, since in 7 and a half years of playing I've never played a Rad, but with i24 around the corner, you may want to try and fit Penetrating Ray (the snipe) in there.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
Okay, with Cathode Ray pushing 41 I figured it was time to start fussing with his build. I'm eyeing ranged defense & global recharge, and here's what I cobbled together this morning. I'm sure its abominable, which is why I'm here looking for input- this is a very rough draft that probably needs a lot of help.
So help meeeeee! =D |
Disintegrate, Snipe (which should spread disint 100% of the time, but I think I may have seen reports on beta that fast snipe isn't 100% spreading disintgrate, not sure on that) then go to work with your other AoE's leveraging all that sudden extra disintegration?
That said, I'm not sure what you'd drop to make space for it. I'd say Force of Nature personally, since I don't like it much with such a huge recharge, and end/recovery crash at the end, but you've got a Steadfast Res/Def in there and nowehere to move it to without losing the 6 part bonus in Temp Invuln.
Swapping out Piercing Beam for it means you lose the -Resist in Piercing, which I'd be loathe to do on a 'support' toon.
Do you really need Aim? I don't have it on my Beam/Time Corruptor and don't struggle, but you'd still need to find slots from somewhere...
Hmm...
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Awp, you're right!|
Originally Posted by Canine
I can't speak for the Rad Emission side of things, since in 7 and a half years of playing I've never played a Rad, but with i24 around the corner, you may want to try and fit Penetrating Ray (the snipe) in there.
Disintegrate, Snipe (which should spread disint 100% of the time, but I think I may have seen reports on beta that fast snipe isn't 100% spreading disintgrate, not sure on that) then go to work with your other AoE's leveraging all that sudden extra disintegration? |
I made this off his current build where I'd skipped the snipe, but in I24 snipe is a 'must have' power.
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That said, I'm not sure what you'd drop to make space for it. I'd say Force of Nature personally, since I don't like it much with such a huge recharge, and end/recovery crash at the end, but you've got a Steadfast Res/Def in there and nowehere to move it to without losing the 6 part bonus in Temp Invuln. Swapping out Piercing Beam for it means you lose the -Resist in Piercing, which I'd be loathe to do on a 'support' toon. Do you really need Aim? I don't have it on my Beam/Time Corruptor and don't struggle, but you'd still need to find slots from somewhere... |
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll do some fiddling and see what I come up with.
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okay messed around a bit and came up with this:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.96
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Cathode Ray: Level 50 Technology Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Beam Rifle
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Single Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 1: Radiant Aura -- Panac-Heal/Rchg(A)
Level 2: Charged Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 4: Cutting Beam -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(5), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(37), Ragnrk-Knock%(39)
Level 6: Disintegrate -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 8: Radiation Infection -- DampS-ToHitDeb(A), DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(15), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg(21), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(21), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42)
Level 10: Accelerate Metabolism -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Lancer Shot -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(13), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(13), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(19), Stpfy-KB%(23), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(33)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(23), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFtn-Def(45), RedFtn-EndRdx(45)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- Krma-ResKB(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 18: Enervating Field -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Lingering Radiation -- P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow(A), P'ngTtl-Dmg/Slow(34), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx(36), P'ngTtl-Rng/Slow(36), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(36), P'ngTtl--Rchg%(37)
Level 22: Penetrating Ray -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(33), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 24: Tactics -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(25), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(31), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-Build%(34)
Level 26: Piercing Beam -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40), Posi-Dmg/Rng(40), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 30: Mutation -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Overcharge -- MotCorruptor-Acc/Dmg(A), MotCorruptor-Dmg/Rchg(39), MotCorruptor-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), MotCorruptor-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), MotCorruptor-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), MotCorruptor-Rchg/Dmg%(50)
Level 35: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Force of Nature -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-Res/Rech/End(45), GA-End/Res(46), GA-RechEnd(46), GA-RechRes(46), GA-3defTpProc(48)
Level 47: EM Pulse -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(29)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(27)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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I could still use some slots, wondering if my global recharge would make dropping one recharge in AM viable...
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I was thinking about this exact combo! Thanks for posting. 
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I wouldn't, personally. Perma-AM is too valuable to jeopardise IMO.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
okay messed around a bit and came up with this:
I could still use some slots, wondering if my global recharge would make dropping one recharge in AM viable... |
Just from glancing at the build, you seem to be doing something similar to what I did on my Beam/Time, which is to build as a blaster with the secondary looking a lot like an afterthought.
Maneuvers looks like a potential good source of slots, since I'd consider 6 slots in there and no LoTG 7.5% to be overslotted, but what do I know?
Hang on.... No Damage enhancement in Lancer shot?!? That's your big single target hitter and you're slotting it as a mez? whuh?
Radiant Aura looks to be underslotted to me too. It may not be a huge heal, but as a self heal it'll help your survivability against any hits that do leak through your rad debuffs.
Sorry, mostly incoherent thoughts here and I'm really not a Rad (or corruptor, TBH) expert in any way, shape or form.
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Lancer totally needs damage slotting, and I agree..single slotting the heal is a bad idea. Also, the snipe would help. I like hamis in Rad Infect too.
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True, just pondering out loud. And I there are other powers I should cannibalize for slots before AM.|
Originally Posted by Canine
I wouldn't, personally. Perma-AM is too valuable to jeopardise IMO.
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| Just from glancing at the build, you seem to be doing something similar to what I did on my Beam/Time, which is to build as a blaster with the secondary looking a lot like an afterthought. |
The keys of the set IMHO are enervating, infection and lingering radiation, which I've maxed.
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Maneuvers looks like a potential good source of slots, since I'd consider 6 slots in there and no LoTG 7.5% to be overslotted, but what do I know?
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Maybe I'll work up one that's more recharge heavy with lower ranged defense- he's usually fine anyway provided his anchor is still alive and/or he hasn't been mezz'ed.
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| Hang on.... No Damage enhancement in Lancer shot?!? That's your big single target hitter and you're slotting it as a mez? whuh? |
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| Radiant Aura looks to be underslotted to me too. It may not be a huge heal, but as a self heal it'll help your survivability against any hits that do leak through your rad debuffs. |
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| Sorry, mostly incoherent thoughts here and I'm really not a Rad (or corruptor, TBH) expert in any way, shape or form. |
Any input is good input, thanks for the replies.
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I've never slotted a hami in my life- what would they bring to the table for Infection?
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Originally Posted by MisterD
Lancer totally needs damage slotting, and I agree..single slotting the heal is a bad idea. Also, the snipe would help. I like hamis in Rad Infect too.
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To quote from the Holy Book of Paragonwiki, Chapter 1 - |
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
I've never slotted a hami in my life- what would they bring to the table for Infection?
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Enzyme Exposure Exposure to the Hamidon Enzyme can increase the effectiveness of Accuracy and Defense DeBuffs and reduces the Endurance Cost of a power.  Enhance Defense Debuff (33.33%) Reduce Endurance Cost (33.33%) Enhance ToHit Debuff (20%)
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Even one slot with one Enzyme would be a massive slot economy, getting three SO's work out of one HO.
At least I'm assuming that's what he means.
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Well now!
The slot savings would more than justify losing the set bonus.
Thanks for doing the legwork.
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Okay, with Cathode Ray pushing 41 I figured it was time to start fussing with his build. I'm eyeing ranged defense & global recharge, and here's what I cobbled together this morning. I'm sure its abominable, which is why I'm here looking for input- this is a very rough draft that probably needs a lot of help.
So help meeeeee! =D
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.96
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Cathode Ray: Level 50 Technology Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Beam Rifle
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Single Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 1: Radiant Aura -- Panac-Heal/Rchg(A), Panac-Heal/+End(15)
Level 2: Charged Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 4: Cutting Beam -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(5), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(37), Ragnrk-Knock%(39)
Level 6: Disintegrate -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 8: Radiation Infection -- DampS-ToHitDeb(A), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg(21), DampS-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(21), DampS-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(42), DampS-Rchg/EndRdx(43)
Level 10: Accelerate Metabolism -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 12: Lancer Shot -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(13), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(13), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(19), Stpfy-KB%(23), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(33)
Level 14: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(33)
Level 18: Enervating Field -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Lingering Radiation -- P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow(A), P'ngTtl-Dmg/Slow(34), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx(36), P'ngTtl-Rng/Slow(36), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(36), P'ngTtl--Rchg%(37)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(23), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFtn-Def(43), RedFtn-EndRdx(45), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 24: Tactics -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(25), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(31), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-Build%(34)
Level 26: Piercing Beam -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40), Posi-Dmg/Rng(40), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 30: Mutation -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Overcharge -- MotCorruptor-Acc/Dmg(A), MotCorruptor-Dmg/Rchg(39), MotCorruptor-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), MotCorruptor-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), MotCorruptor-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), MotCorruptor-Rchg/Dmg%(50)
Level 35: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Power Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Force of Nature -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- GA-ResDam(A), GA-Res/Rech/End(45), GA-End/Res(46), GA-RechEnd(46), GA-RechRes(46), GA-3defTpProc(48)
Level 47: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-ResKB(48)
Level 49: EM Pulse -- Empty(A), Empty(50), Empty(50)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(29)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(27), EndMod-I(29)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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