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Aneurysmo

 

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Before I start I know another post is incredibly similair, but that post mentioned some secondaries it didnt want, and asked for a 500mill build, I need a strong secondary to pair with Titan Weapon, I dont care whether it can farm, but I do want it to be tough enough to handle Av's and have enough damage to kill mobs on +4 x8 effectively moneys no object, please shoot the builds thanks in advance.


 

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Here you go, I can't think of a more bad to the bone Brute than this one...I am leveling it now...am into the 30's at this point...it will be insanity on steroids when I am done. Oh, and it's quite expensive...knock yourself out and let me know what you think.

Top DPS chain with Build Momentum is FT->RA->AoD->FT->CB->FT

Make sure you have accolades and incarnates on...you will need T4 Ageless to run the top DPS chain...otherwise the recharge isn't there.


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Nightmare's Shadow v2.0: Level 50 Mutation Brute
Primary Power Set: Titan Weapons
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Crushing Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(7), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(9), GA-3defTpProc:50(9)
Level 2: Death Shroud -- FotG-ResDeb%:50(A), FotG-Acc/End/Rech:50(11), FotG-Dam/End/Rech:50(11), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(13), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(13), Erad-Dmg:30(15)
Level 4: Murky Cloud -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(15), RctvArm-ResDam:40(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(19), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(19)
Level 6: Titan Sweep -- FotG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech:50(A), FotG-Acc/End/Rech:50(21), FotG-Dam/End/Rech:50(21), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(23), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(23), Erad-Dmg:30(25)
Level 8: Build Momentum -- Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg:20(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit:20(25)
Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(27), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(27), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(29)
Level 12: Follow Through -- SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(A), SBrutesF-Rech/Fury:50(29), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), Mako-Acc/Dmg:50(31), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(48)
Level 14: Taunt -- Zinger-Dam%:50(A)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(36), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(36), Theft-+End%:30(37), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen:50(37), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 18: Rend Armor -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg:50(42), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Hectmb-Dam%:50(43)
Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(34), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(36), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(50)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(33), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(34), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(34)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(33)
Level 28: Whirling Smash -- SBrutesF-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), SBrutesF-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg:50(46), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(48), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(48), Erad-Dmg:30(50)
Level 30: Cloak of Fear -- N'mare-EndRdx/Fear:50(A), N'mare-Acc/EndRdx:50(40), N'mare-Acc/Fear:50(42)
Level 32: Arc of Destruction -- Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg:50(39), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(40), Armgdn-Dam%:50(40)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(39)
Level 38: Soul Transfer -- Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(A)
Level 41: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(50)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 47: Superior Conditioning -- P'Shift-End%:50(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%:50(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 4: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(43)
Level 4: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 4: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(45), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(46)
Level 1: Momentum
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Warworks Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany
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Currently Playing:
Rage King - SS/Regen Brute (50+3)
Soulfire Darkness - Dark/Fire Tank (50+2)
Deaths Final Embrace - Kat/Dark Brute (50+3)
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*sighs* My apologies Planet J, I forgot to mention... this is the only TW build I dont want to do, your build is VERY good, problem is I just finished IOing my Dark/Dark Scrap, and would rather not have 2 dark toons, sorry if I wasted your time there, builds nice but prefer something other than dark.


 

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I like my TW/Elec brute. Can you be clearer about what secondary you're looking for if /dark is no good...?


 

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TW/Elec, TW/EA, or TW/Fire if you have the builds to do it I've heard wonderful things about, I dont want stone, and I like dark but dont wish to do another one since I just finished with my DM/DA scrap, I'd love to check out your TW/Elec build if you dont mind?


 

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This is my TW/Elec Brute build, so far so good. He is not built to farm but can do it reliably:

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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Titan Weapons
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Crushing Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(50)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 2: Titan Sweep -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-%Dam(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 4: Conductive Shield -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(5), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(5), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 6: Build Momentum -- Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit(7), RechRdx-I(7), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 8: Follow Through -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Rope-Acc/EndRdx(39), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 10: Static Shield -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 16: Grounded -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(50)
Level 18: Rend Armor -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(36), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 20: Lightning Field -- SBrutesF-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SBrutesF-Rech/Fury(21), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx(23), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(25), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(25), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 26: Whirling Smash -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 28: Energize -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(29), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(42), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(42)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 32: Arc of Destruction -- SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg(A), SBrutesF-Dmg/Rchg(33), SBrutesF-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), FrcFbk-Rchg/EndRdx(33), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(34), KinCrsh-Rechg/EndRdx(50)
Level 35: Power Sink -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod(46)
Level 38: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(43), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(48)
Level 41: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 44: Superior Conditioning -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 47: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(45)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(13), EndMod-I(29)
Level 1: Momentum
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 6% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 6% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 6% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 6% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 6% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 6% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 6% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 6% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 37.88% Defense(Smashing)
  • 37.88% Defense(Lethal)
  • 6% Defense(Fire)
  • 6% Defense(Cold)
  • 11% Defense(Energy)
  • 11% Defense(Negative)
  • 6% Defense(Psionic)
  • 27.56% Defense(Melee)
  • 8.5% Defense(Ranged)
  • 6% Defense(AoE)
  • 37.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 4% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 27% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 191.2 HP (12.75%) HitPoints
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 12.65%
  • MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
  • MezResist(Stunned) 4.4%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
  • 32% (2 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 1.26% Resistance(Fire)
  • 1.26% Resistance(Cold)
  • 1 Null
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Set Bonuses:
Kinetic Combat
(Crushing Blow)
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
  • 22.49 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
  • 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Reactive Armor
(Charged Armor)
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
  • 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
  • 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Obliteration
(Titan Sweep)
  • MezResist(Stunned) 2.2%
  • 3% DamageBuff(All)
  • 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Reactive Armor
(Conductive Shield)
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
  • 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
  • 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Rectified Reticle
(Build Momentum)
  • 1.88% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.94% Defense(Melee)
Kinetic Combat
(Follow Through)
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
  • 22.49 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
  • 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Reactive Armor
(Static Shield)
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
  • 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
  • 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Luck of the Gambler
(Combat Jumping)
  • 10% (0.62 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Steadfast Protection
(Grounded)
  • 3% Defense(Melee), 3% Defense(AoE), 3% Defense(Ranged), 3% Defense(Smashing), 3% Defense(Lethal), 3% Defense(Fire), 3% Defense(Cold), 3% Defense(Energy), 3% Defense(Negative), 3% Defense(Psionic)
Gladiator's Armor
(Grounded)
  • 3% Defense(Melee), 3% Defense(AoE), 3% Defense(Ranged), 3% Defense(Smashing), 3% Defense(Lethal), 3% Defense(Fire), 3% Defense(Cold), 3% Defense(Energy), 3% Defense(Negative), 3% Defense(Psionic)
Kinetic Combat
(Rend Armor)
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 2.75%
  • 22.49 HP (1.5%) HitPoints
  • 3.75% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Melee)
Superior Brute's Fury
(Lightning Field)
  • 44.98 HP (3%) HitPoints
  • 5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 2.5% Defense(Melee)
  • 1 Null
Multi Strike
(Lightning Field)
  • MezResist(Sleep) 1.65%
Reactive Armor
(Tough)
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 1.1%
  • 1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
  • 1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)
Obliteration
(Whirling Smash)
  • MezResist(Stunned) 2.2%
  • 3% DamageBuff(All)
  • 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 3.75% Defense(Melee), 1.88% Defense(Lethal), 1.88% Defense(Smashing)
Doctored Wounds
(Energize)
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
  • 1.26% Resistance(Fire,Cold)
  • 4% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Superior Brute's Fury
(Arc of Destruction)
  • 44.98 HP (3%) HitPoints
  • 5% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 2.5% Defense(Melee)
Efficacy Adaptor
(Power Sink)
  • 16.87 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
Luck of the Gambler
(Weave)
  • 10% (0.62 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 16.87 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
  • 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Luck of the Gambler
(Hover)
  • 7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
Numina's Convalescence
(Health)
  • 12% (0.75 HP/sec) Regeneration



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About the TW/DarkArmor.
I cannot judge without playing it but I have the slight feeling that this build wouldnt be solo sustainable even with T4 Ageless (mostly on the sacond half of the duration) without buff. Of course I cannot see the impatc of x3 perf shifter procs.

When missioning and traveleing packs to packs it should be ok, but dont you end up with troubles on high melee uptime fights?

I also wonder what is the real impact of damage procs and, moreover, of -res procs. TW has plenty of attacks to carry Achile's Heel. Your build has very few damage proc, how much do they imact overall DPS?

I'v been toying around and had this (disclaimer: I still think your build is better!)

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About the Elec build:
Is it THAT important to focus on end cost (both attack slotting and EPP) if you reach perma Energized?

I have the feeling Darkest Night + Agility would be better than Energy + Spiritual.

Do you think you benefit more of End more IOs than Proc shifter in passive End toys?

The build is already quite expensive (Glad +def pretty much already cost more than the whole rest), maybe you can have use of some Hamies and Purp up at least one of the Oblit sets.


Personally I'v been thinking of
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Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU View Post
About the TW/DarkArmor.
I cannot judge without playing it but I have the slight feeling that this build wouldnt be solo sustainable even with T4 Ageless (mostly on the sacond half of the duration) without buff. Of course I cannot see the impatc of x3 perf shifter procs.
I'm running a very similar TW/DA build, and the +end IOs carry it. I still don't really understand how they work, because they don't seem to impact the endurance pool, and yet they seem to create staggering amounts of endurance recovery.


 

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Originally Posted by Aneurysmo View Post
I'm running a very similar TW/DA build, and the +end IOs carry it. I still don't really understand how they work, because they don't seem to impact the endurance pool, and yet they seem to create staggering amounts of endurance recovery.
+End IOs in a passive have a 20% chance to fill 10% of your max Endurance roughly every 10 seconds.

So for someone with 100 EndMax, (20% chance X 10% of endurance X 100 end)/10 sec = 0.20 end/sec. Which isn't small.

This scales upwards if you have accolades, set bonuses, or powers that increase it, of course, and those can start to add up if you have one in Stamina, one in Physical Perfection and one in Superior Conditioning.


 

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My main issue on Dark is that its pretty much impossible to run or even pick Darkest Night and I have the feeling ElA or WP WITH Darkest Night would be tougher than Dark Armor without.


 

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I was also thinking TW/Elec.
Here are my concerns upfront:
1) TW/Elec is extremely dependent on recharge for it to be effective.
2) The main thing that has -recharge are cold and psi enemies.
3) The build does not have high amounts of defense to cold or psi, making it more vulnerable to 2.

I wanted a build that included:
1) Decent amount of resists (inherent).
2) Respectable level of defense (built).
3) Massive amounts of recharge (built).
4) Utilizes momentum "dumps" for playstyle.
5) Wasn't encumbered by lack of endurance.
6) Has enough accuracy to get most attacks across.

This is what I came up with. Some will say I've overslotted this or that, and that's fine. I plan on using AoE attacks for the bulk of my hits. Some will say I don't have enough recharge. They're crazy. I have Perma-Hasten, and that's enough for me. Once the force feedbacks start rolling, it'll be insane.

I use the force feedbacks to try to overcome any -recharge. I use the Agility and Ageless to put me up to high levels of recharge- and Ageless again to overcome -recharge asap to keep me in the game.

Any questions, comments, concerns, rebuilds, etc?

Cheers,

Beau

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Seriously? No Follow Through? There's something I'm missing in the TW mecanism I guess.


 

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Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU View Post
My main issue on Dark is that its pretty much impossible to run or even pick Darkest Night and I have the feeling ElA or WP WITH Darkest Night would be tougher than Dark Armor without.
ELA is harder to Softcap S/L/E/N and so you have to chase bonuses to get there...

Dark Armor has some of the strongest composite resists in the game, plus soft controls and a damage aura. Dark Armor will do LOTS of DPS with TW...and so I am extremely happy with my build so far....I have 117.2 endurance too I should mention...so the perf shifter procs go a long way.

As for FT, you are not missing anything...FT is used in the BM Chain 3 times and the non BM chain 2 times. It is the second highest DPA attack in the set...and well worth taking.

Someone who did not take it is missing an enormous part of the set.


Currently Playing:
Rage King - SS/Regen Brute (50+3)
Soulfire Darkness - Dark/Fire Tank (50+2)
Deaths Final Embrace - Kat/Dark Brute (50+3)
ULTIMATE REGEN GUIDE I22

 

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Originally Posted by Kyria_Shirako View Post
+End IOs in a passive have a 20% chance to fill 10% of your max Endurance roughly every 10 seconds.

So for someone with 100 EndMax, (20% chance X 10% of endurance X 100 end)/10 sec = 0.20 end/sec. Which isn't small.

This scales upwards if you have accolades, set bonuses, or powers that increase it, of course, and those can start to add up if you have one in Stamina, one in Physical Perfection and one in Superior Conditioning.
Oh I see, so having three of those means you're getting a pretty huge recovery increase. Thanks, I didn't understand how that worked.

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Originally Posted by Nightchill_EU View Post
My main issue on Dark is that its pretty much impossible to run or even pick Darkest Night and I have the feeling ElA or WP WITH Darkest Night would be tougher than Dark Armor without.
The cast for Darkest Night is over three seconds. By the time that's even cast, a non-Darkest Night casting TWer will have reduced a significant amount of the mobs' health, so with softcap versus S/L/E/N, 50% resistance to almost everything, a 9s recharge full heal (with some minor +endurance), and a DoT with -res, why bother with Darkest Night at all?


 

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Originally Posted by Aneurysmo View Post
The cast for Darkest Night is over three seconds. By the time that's even cast, a non-Darkest Night casting TWer will have reduced a significant amount of the mobs' health, so with softcap versus S/L/E/N, 50% resistance to almost everything, a 9s recharge full heal (with some minor +endurance), and a DoT with -res, why bother with Darkest Night at all?
Pull and Herd with Darkest Night? Also "some" mobs will actually last longer than 2 AoEs.

btw how do you overcome endo drain as TW/DA? I mean like Arachnos heavy Mu or Freakshows?



I'v red earlier that brutes are better than Scraps for TW/-, I understand why for Elec (higher res cap), I still dont get why for DA.