Stealth question


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Why does Stealth (from the Concealment pool) toggle off Steamy Mist, and vice versa? Thanks!


 

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Because they are mutually exclusive powers, and in their description, this should be apparent. As for the technical reason, I think they work like CJ and SJ, where the powers are taking up the same "slot," so can't be used at the same time.


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Originally Posted by TankShock View Post
Why does Stealth (from the Concealment pool) toggle off Steamy Mist, and vice versa? Thanks!
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Concealment#Stealth

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You blend into your environment and can only be seen at very close range. Even if discovered, you are hard to see and have a bonus to Defense from all attacks. If, however, you attack while using this power, you will be discovered and will lose your Stealth and some of your Defense bonus. While Stealthy, your movement is Slowed. Stealth will not work with any other form of Concealment power such as Shadow Fall or Steamy Mist. Very low Endurance cost.
That's the wiki description.

Pretty much, they both provide the same kind of concealment and my guess is that it's not supposed to stack.



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But other Stealth powers still stack, correct? How about the Stealth proc? Been gone for a year, thought maybe a mechanic had changed.


 

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But other Stealth powers still stack, correct? How about the Stealth proc? Been gone for a year, thought maybe a mechanic had changed.
The Stealth proc will stack with the Stealth power or powers like Steamy Mist. Most other stealth powers will not work with each other, but would stack with something like Hide (if you ever tried) or Invisibility.


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Summary:
Stealth IO: allowed with anything, but is unique so only one can be slotted.
Hide: allowed with anything.
Super Speed (PvE only): allowed with anything.
Clicks (Grant/Group Invis): allowed with anything.

Everything else*: mutually exclusive.

So you get one of the "everything else" category and any number of the others up to the stealth cap.

* - not sure about Widow Mask Presence and Bane Cloaking Device, I think they might stack but safer to assume 'no'.


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Summary:
Stealth IO: allowed with anything, but is unique so only one can be slotted.
Hide: allowed with anything.
Super Speed (PvE only): allowed with anything.
Clicks (Grant/Group Invis): allowed with anything.

Everything else*: mutually exclusive.

So you get one of the "everything else" category and any number of the others up to the stealth cap.

* - not sure about Widow Mask Presence and Bane Cloaking Device, I think they might stack but safer to assume 'no'.
according to the wiki both bane spider training.cloaking device and and both fortunata and night widow mask presence act just like stealth and are mutually exclusive with most other stealth powers


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
according to the wiki both bane spider training.cloaking device and and both fortunata and night widow mask presence act just like stealth and are mutually exclusive with most other stealth powers
Fair enough. I just never bothered even trying to take Stealth on any of my VEATs because I had stealth IOs laying around before I started leveling them, and there have been text errors due to copy/paste in powers before (like Strength of Will referring to Unstoppable's crash). I have experience with the rest of the list.


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Thanks!


 

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Also worth noting:

Stealth or Steamy Mist WILL stack with Steamy Mist or Shadow Fall that is being run by someone else. If you are within the radius of someone else's power and running Stealth, it will effectively stack.

The AoE stealth powers will stack with each other when used by different players, you just can't run two of them yourself.


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