Incarnate slots for Necro/Dark


Agent White

 

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Did a little searching, but didn't find a lot of info on this topic.


Decided to finish incarnate stuff on my MM. Unlocked Lore/Destiny after a long period of inactivity. Now wondering what I should drop in the slots.


Necro/Dark as the title suggests, reasonable personal survivability, but the pets tend to die a lot when hits get through their defense (quite often actually)



Basically, I'm looking at Lore and Destiny options to improve the survivability of the pets.

I'm thinking of either Max HP Rebirth (10% extra HP for the first tier pets, for the last minute.. not too shabby) or Barrier, which provides res AND Def, but number-wise, not quite the level of survivability as the extra HP.

For Lore, I'm torn between having the improved damage pets (and for the full 5 mins- good for BAF, or even regular content given the /Dark support available to them) or going for the invincible support pets, with 50% up time, that provide 7.5% typed/5% pos def. Also was thinking of the Vanguard pet with 7.5% dmg Assault, and an extra Twilight Grasp (though with a 12s cooldown for 100 healing, this would be kind of meh)


Currently using Spiritual (would this improve the +Max HP from Rebirth? It does improve the up-front heal) Toxic dmg Interface and -DMG Judgement.

Salvage isn't really an issue, so I was considering of maybe building extra sets (such as more Lore pet options) but would prefer not to, if any of you can provide negative experiences for said pets/powers, or speak highly of any of them in particular compared to others.


Cheers!


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Persoanlly on my main MM (Beast/Time) I really prefer the Rebirth with the Regen Attached to it. Main reason is with their defense the regen is a nice way for them to repair their own HP in-between my own heals. Also, spirital is supposed to buff that but I believe the regen and max hp buffs are bugged at the moment and not be affected.

I would highly suggest transfering to beta and testing out both destinies.


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I went with Barrier on mine, it's been pretty handy.

Though frankly, if you're talking about survivability on Trials, ehhh. There's not really much you can do, pets just die -horribly- on trials kind of regardless.

For stuff like regular content and Dark Astoria though, Barrier does just fine.

As for Lore. Honestly, my stance on core vs radial is that -I'm- pretty much some of the best support for my pets already, so I may as well go for more damage.

Probably not the answers you're looking for but that's what I went with on mine. Also used the Support Hybrid tree for added Defense


 

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I've been thinking about what I'll do to my MMs once I get them up to incarnate content as of late. For Necro I'd suggest having a look at the Intuition Alpha, specifically Radial Paragon - if only it had Fear, it would be perfect

I had a similar toss-up between Rebirth and Barrier but came to the conclusion that the burst heal and extra regen (I wouldn't go +HP, personally) aren't as important when you and fluffy have Twlight Grasp, even the constant 5% Def and Res of Barrier would be pretty handy. Stack it with the unique pet procs and that's quite a decent boost for a debuff set.

As far as Core vs Radial for Lore, I've found the Radial support pet to be less-than-constant in their contribution so you may as well go Core.


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Originally Posted by SonicRemedy View Post
I would highly suggest transfering to beta and testing out both destinies.
facepalm.


Very good point, hadn't even crossed my mind!


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Originally Posted by Agent White View Post
Though frankly, if you're talking about survivability on Trials, ehhh. There's not really much you can do, pets just die -horribly- on trials kind of regardless.

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As for Lore. Honestly, my stance on core vs radial is that -I'm- pretty much some of the best support for my pets already, so I may as well go for more damage.

Probably not the answers you're looking for but that's what I went with on mine. Also used the Support Hybrid tree for added Defense
Yeah, I've made peace with the fact that I'm not going to be a monster on iTrials, but I'd like to have a character that's at top effectiveness outside of them. MMs are great in BAF, but relying on pets (that are stupid and die all the time) when the rest of the team is more than capable of speeding through the enemies is a hit of a hindrance to the fun factor.

And yeah, I have about come to the same conclusion as you on Lore pets. I provide so much to them already, and can provide something to the DPS pets as well. Typically, I'm unable to protect my Lore pets, or am a farmer and want something that improves me *some* when every entity on the map could potentially be at the aggro cap and the DPS pets are useful for about 20 seconds before melting.


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Originally Posted by JayLeonHart_EU View Post
I've been thinking about what I'll do to my MMs once I get them up to incarnate content as of late. For Necro I'd suggest having a look at the Intuition Alpha, specifically Radial Paragon - if only it had Fear, it would be perfect

I had a similar toss-up between Rebirth and Barrier but came to the conclusion that the burst heal and extra regen (I wouldn't go +HP, personally) aren't as important when you and fluffy have Twlight Grasp, even the constant 5% Def and Res of Barrier would be pretty handy. Stack it with the unique pet procs and that's quite a decent boost for a debuff set.
The reason I'm not considering +Regen is because the number does not translate well to the zombies - they've got low max HP and I provide most of their survival already. For the mini zombies, the bonus HP is about 10% max HP for the last minute, which considering my Twilight Grasp already does nearly their entire HP bar, is pretty handy.

When you consider -tohit from Darkest Night, they're currently (not incarnate) softcapped, and I feel the extra HP would be more useful than +RES, given the values, but I guess I'm gonna go check out em all out on beta.


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