Overwhelming Force proc and pets?


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Since pets can slot the OF proc; does this mean that if I place it into my Tier 1 pets (assuming no KB powers); that each attack they do has a chance to to do KD (unhindered by PPMs or suppression) (ST and AoEs; clicks, summons and auras)?

18 chances, collectively, to cause KD?
(same with the Soulbound Allegiance proc)?

Also, would it it be limited to a single activation at a time or could they overlap (being that its multiple sources).


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Decided to give it a go with Tier 1 Merc pets; the OF proc actually went off on a regular basis. KDing Wailers with conversion on Frag KBs.

Seems that Ninja T1s would get the most benefit (18 different attacks as opposed to the 12 that most T1 groups get); although Thug T1 have access to 5 AoE attacks (while most others T1s only have 3).

Any T1 pet Soulbound proc input?


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Originally Posted by Yogi_Bare View Post
Any T1 pet Soulbound proc input?
It works in a similar fashion, each attack the individual pet makes gives a chance for that pet (and only that pet) to proc the buildup.

T1 pets, being up to -6 to enemies (if you play at +4) do such a fraction of the percentage of all of your pet damage, that it's usually more beneficial to put it in your T3 pet (or T2 if they are the main damage dealers, such as with Necro).


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Originally Posted by Zybron1 View Post
It works in a similar fashion, each attack the individual pet makes gives a chance for that pet (and only that pet) to proc the buildup.

T1 pets, being up to -6 to enemies (if you play at +4) do such a fraction of the percentage of all of your pet damage, that it's usually more beneficial to put it in your T3 pet (or T2 if they are the main damage dealers, such as with Necro).
I rarely up the diff past +1; especially at/after 50 (I focus more on increasing mob size). So I'm assuming -2/-3 (unless we're (pets and I) level shifted) until I come across 54s?

Seems like a pain to remember that so I may just go with the SA proc in the upper tier pets as you suggest.


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Well, Thugs don't do KB, they do KD with Dual Wield and Empty Clips. I've heard arguments that OF proc in Ninjas is good because of Crane kick, but overall the ridiculously fast attack chains the Genin possess would be a great place for the proc.


 

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Something to keep in mind is that in Incarnate content (both trials and DA) Supremacy applies and additional +2 level shift to your T1 pets and +1 to your T2 pets making them all even level with you (of course they still have lower damage modifiers than your other pets).


 

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Well, I am one who has run with the OF set in my Ninjas for a little while. I thoroughly enjoy the set because it adds another layer of control that my pets can have access to (when it goes off) that I don't have to have an active part in.

I chose to slot my OF set on my Genin. I decided they would be the best candidates for the extra knockdown because they attack the most AND the OF set actually increased their damage enough to be noticeable.
My Jounin run with Soulbound Allegiance and my Oni uses the Mastermind ATO set (just for reference of how I have them slotted).
Basically now, it feels like all 3 of my pets have "purples" slotted. I compared OF to my set of +5 Sovereign Right and Overwhelming Force actually generates better numbers!

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T1 pets, being up to -6 to enemies (if you play at +4) do such a fraction of the percentage of all of your pet damage, that it's usually more beneficial to put it in your T3 pet (or T2 if they are the main damage dealers, such as with Necro).
Yes, T1 pets are weaker than your others. But, I think it is unwise to discount their contribution to your over-all damage. T1 pets (because there are 3 of them) attack more often than your others. That is why I believe "Overwhelming Force" deserves to be in the T1 pets.


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