I have a lvl 12 WB/Dark and I forsee her being a AoE blapper queen in later levels.
Whirlpool+Soul drain+Soul consumption+Tidal forces+water burst+Geyser(if they're even still alive) then dark melee the s*** out of the rest still standing.
Not to mention high survivability with the upcoming change to touch of fear(regen/recovery buff), then dehydrate (a damage/heal) and soul consumption(+end). I don't see it being bad at all.
50Soulsunder: DM/Regen Scrapper
50Limitshift: EM/WP Brute
Victoria Nox: Dark/Dark Dominator
And about 5 others that change constantly...
Is whirlpool really that good? Because in all of my builds on Mids I have been skipping it. That and Steam spray.
It's equivalent to rain of fire and ice storm, so it's pretty good. The set has enough area attacks that you can easily skip one though.
OK, lvl 13 and finally got the chance to solo a bit (1-12 was DFB)
Early levels may be a pain endurance wise, but dayum the combo kicks butt, it plays faster than I expected. My current strategy is to stand about 60' away from baddies, cast whirlpool on self, and fire off two other TF builders then water burst. It's turning out to be a very effective combo, only needing you to clean up stray survivors afterwards. Later the aoe potential should only get better.
But ya, endurance reduction, slot it.
50Soulsunder: DM/Regen Scrapper
50Limitshift: EM/WP Brute
Victoria Nox: Dark/Dark Dominator
And about 5 others that change constantly...
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I must really think differently from most people about this because I would never consider skipping a slow that comes early in a set, especially if it does decent damage as well as being able to slot an Achilles.|
Originally Posted by Icesphere
Is whirlpool really that good? Because in all of my builds on Mids I have been skipping it. That and Steam spray.
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Heck, toss in 5 parts of that new universal damage set including the (in this power) proc and the achilles proc and you have a whirlpool with a chance to reduce resistance AND knockdown while also imposing a -40% slow. If you're planning for purples, maybe the Ragnarok set with proc instead? There are quite a few ways to slot this, some better than others for Blasters.
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With the way Procs are being changed to Proc-Per-Minute formulas, Achilles' Heel in Whirpool will most likely be a for-sure thing every time you drop it. Makes that power incredible awesome for a Blaster.|
Originally Posted by Lady_of_Ysgard
I must really think differently from most people about this because I would never consider skipping a slow that comes early in a set, especially if it does decent damage as well as being able to slot an Achilles.
Heck, toss in 5 parts of that new universal damage set including the (in this power) proc and the achilles proc and you have a whirlpool with a chance to reduce resistance AND knockdown while also imposing a -40% slow. If you're planning for purples, maybe the Ragnarok set with proc instead? There are quite a few ways to slot this, some better than others for Blasters. |
I've actually been weighing the idea of a Water/Dark myself as it or a Water/Cold Corr are the only two that have really interested me (haven't purchased Water yet, undecided). But Water/Dark can get a pretty nasty single-target chain going on with Smite > Dehydrate > Water Jet > Midnight Grasp > Water Jet (or something close to that). It cycles around the Tidal stacks nicely and as a straight-chain it work well with the added potential of Water Jet doubling up on occasion.
And for anyone interested, a Water/Dark build for Mids' I'm toying with.
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I'd urge you to think about Water/Time corr that can soft-cap (and icap with claron), as well as get Geyser down to 30-35 second recharge.
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Originally Posted by John_Printemps
With the way Procs are being changed to Proc-Per-Minute formulas, Achilles' Heel in Whirpool will most likely be a for-sure thing every time you drop it. Makes that power incredible awesome for a Blaster.
I've actually been weighing the idea of a Water/Dark myself as it or a Water/Cold Corr are the only two that have really interested me (haven't purchased Water yet, undecided). But Water/Dark can get a pretty nasty single-target chain going on with Smite > Dehydrate > Water Jet > Midnight Grasp > Water Jet (or something close to that). It cycles around the Tidal stacks nicely and as a straight-chain it work well with the added potential of Water Jet doubling up on occasion. And for anyone interested, a Water/Dark build for Mids' I'm toying with. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1489;694;1388;HEX;| |78DA65944B4F13511886CFE94C8529AD50CAFDDE0BB452286 D60A3A22682A24813A| |05E966442276562D38E6D89B234FE0337260AACBCEC5879DB BA36FE0777CA02F407| |A8E337F3BD409399A47D66DEF37EE7BCF39DD3E69F2C060F9 69E5E1332B450D6EBF| |58DEBF4DD306AFEBC5E3237055D8145BDF670EC814E620B3D 0EC0B0B1AE574A4631| |E30E70D5F8C95061DBB2AAB546C6A9AC1834695EAF98D6765 96F98D58A08AD56ABE| |5CC4DB3B4D5302BA580FB54B00CA3D8EEDEAE187AD1A8D5B7 4C2B78F26C912F7CC3| |3237330BD57291667356D9E9A33429FADC880B5CB610F3045 5118FBABC5A8D34C99| |A5FBE5484C8A9C2B70FBE62AABBE01EF35CDAE7B24EB58AE4 5AE588B4611A3B66B6| |1E3AD444ABED78353124B876242A5CDEA27C7E5ED7E7FF429 E882A2E7CE579270FD| |8739B3C2DF0B4ECC2B307A6D9B3441E0DF9B5CFAC053E81EF 99C10FE047E6F967BC| |CE32D5B6A1B6ED1DC65E3347DE806F99637725738D2929580 8BD0CD974896DEA46B| |BDB4B5B6DBFC22B74CC8317994397F08697997728411809C2 48D089049D48D08704| |03FB608E6B154A10E1EE2B91394ED5950567997DBDD2DD0D9 5BCDDECF57577F3584| |F071861C6C8D3CB1ED9EB76571349708572F623673FBA1C45 97E3E872025D4EA0CB| |896F9CF331F565906B95C1BFAC8DFD63466DF00F334C19869 1731839E3C81947CE3| |C6519459651649944962964994296296499C68E97E810C6B0 6B319CC41DCA378EF9| |C6570931554CAC39D4C4C43A586026137C8A9329A64948610 F52C83B83BC33C89BE| |B6276D2BBA5D92BD251EE6B0F69196819D47F0F0A91C5A9CF DEC31C05709D39A436| |FD92DDD31775149EC99EF48C663D4ACEA3CC7A94398FB2E25 156D5D3FF0F215D45E| |B10CE6FDD4D7214A051D93CFAEB4CF1C9FBFC36D3CBC424F1 2A9FD6634FD5EF3345| |CA17BC9733CF993F7A4E33D93F9BEE0F9BEEFF034B9CF462| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |
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I found */Time to be way too busy to keep pace with anything expecting to do DPS on any scale. I could see, maybe, focusing entirely on AoE capacity and teaming, but I'm partial to having some road to do my own damage as well. Without reliable pets somewhere in the equation, that's not likely. Besides that, I already have a Fire/Time Controller and I'm not much for repeating secondaries.
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Originally Posted by Granite Agent
I'd urge you to think about Water/Time corr that can soft-cap (and icap with claron), as well as get Geyser down to 30-35 second recharge.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Well, I posted a Water/Kin build in the corr forums (on a thread about that). Less busy perhaps than time? FS+Geyser and perma PPP pet. Fun?
I swear I have looked and looked at blaster builds in MIDS and I just can't see anything that makes a blaster feel stronger/more interesting than a corr. Maybe I am missing something. Or its just my bias 
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I don't blame you for feeling "eh" about Blasters, as I do as well in most cases. That's why my alternative thoughts were towards a Water/Cold Corr.
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Originally Posted by Granite Agent
Well, I posted a Water/Kin build in the corr forums (on a thread about that). Less busy perhaps than time? FS+Geyser and perma PPP pet. Fun?
I swear I have looked and looked at blaster builds in MIDS and I just can't see anything that makes a blaster feel stronger/more interesting than a corr. Maybe I am missing something. Or its just my bias |
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Not looking to go over builds or anything too specific, just a general comment. Trying to find what may pair well with Water Blast and I was thinking of giving Dark a try. Haven't tried /dark yet so not familiar with how it performs for Blasters. I see a lot of talk about Water/Fire (theme wise and aoe dmg wise).
Is there any glaring issues with paring WB/Dark together that I should know about?
Thanks!