Just telling it like I see it, but I don't see /Poison as being able to support 0/8. You can increase the first number, for mob level, but it's not an aoe debuff set, even with recent changes for aoe, and the single target heal isn't going to be strong enough to keep up with damage. Spamming Provoke won't be enough to hold enough mobs' attention to keep Bots safe from a large spawn.
The only aoe debuff Poison can consistently keep on a big spawn is the one you didn't take, Neurotoxic Breath.
I've never taken Intimidate, because I've found there to be a consensus among the players that have takent it - it's a cruddy power.
I do advise planning your build to the end state. This so you can have a better idea of what you need to meet build goals instead of just grabbing all the melee pool powers for kin combats. CJ + Weave + Maneuvers (replacing Stealth) + Scorpion Shield + Steadfast IO + ProtBot shield will take you to s/l soft-cap, no kin combat mules needed.
I'm not trying to be all Mr Bummer Summer, just trying to set expectations. You certainly can level this combo 1-50, it absolutely crushes EBs, so you can do any mission assigned. I happen to have leveled a bots/poison to 50. I just don't think it will meet the stated goal of soloing 0/8.
Global = Hedgefund (or some derivation thereof)
I took intimidate because I want to get the AOE fear, and it was that, or the ST taunt. will I at least be likely to be able to solo unlocking my alpha, or is poison gonna just be screwed.
You'll be perfectly fine with the alpha arc. Like I said before, bots/poison will pwn EBs, including Trapdoor. Once your build is mature enough, you can even up those to AVs.
Global = Hedgefund (or some derivation thereof)
Hey there. I play a Bots/Poison as a main and I'll be honest with you it's a tough set to love. I made this guy day one of CoV and I've gone back and forth over remaking him over the years. However it can be made to work, but you do have to consider that AoE is both the strong point of Bots and the weak point of /Poison. You can bump up the mob size by 1 or 2, but not much more than that. The splash debuff from Envenom and Weaken just isn't strong enough to keep you healthy.
I too went the tankermind route and I opted to take Provoke and went with Ice APP for Hoarfrost, Ice Armor, and Hibernate. The build I use has got 46.5% S/L defense (1% over I know) and with protector bot shields it's got 30% to positionals. I took Iceblast as a mule and when I feel like doing something besides Provoke. Hopefully you find this useful as a template for your own build.
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Solvent Abuse: Level 50 Mutation Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Chill Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones -- BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(A), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(3), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), BldM'dt-Dmg(5), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(7), BldM'dt-Acc(39)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(3), Numna-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(9), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 2: Envenom -- ShldBrk-DefDeb(A), ShldBrk-Acc/DefDeb(13), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(15), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(17), ShldBrk-%Dam(23), ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 4: Weaken -- SipInsght-ToHitDeb(A), SipInsght-Acc/Rchg(9), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SipInsght-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb(19), SipInsght-%ToHit(21)
Level 6: Equip Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Hover -- Srng-EndRdx/Fly(A)
Level 10: Neurotoxic Breath -- P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A), P'ngTtl-Rng/Slow(17), P'ngTtl--Rchg%(23), P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow(40), P'ngTtl-Dmg/Slow(43), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx(46)
Level 12: Protector Bots -- BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg(A), BriL'shp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(31), DefBuff-I(34), EdctM'r-PetDef(36), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 16: Kick -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 18: Repair -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(25), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(34), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(46), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 22: Provoke -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(27), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(33), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(40)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Def(46)
Level 26: Assault Bot -- BldM'dt-Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(27), S'bndAl-Dmg(29), S'bndAl-Dmg/EndRdx(31), S'bndAl-Build%(34), SvgnRt-PetResDam(37)
Level 28: Paralytic Poison -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(39), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(39)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Rchg+(33)
Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(36), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(36), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(37)
Level 38: Noxious Gas -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def(45), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Hoarfrost -- Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(48), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(48), Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Hibernate -- Numna-Heal/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(11)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(11), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(19)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: Born In Battle
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Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM
Hiya ToxicEel - Seeing your build description, I wondered if it would be possible to softcap your character beyond S/E types. Looks like it might be! With the protector bot bubble, you can be softcapped to AoE and ranged. Still softcapped to S/L without any help. Almost doubled the recharge and keep the endurance return just about even.
Drawback - got rid of some of your +hit point bonuses and hibernate. But....since you are softcapped you should need hibernate less 
Were you interested in implementing this build, you likely could fund by selling three of the four purples currently in the assault bot (assuming you have access to a number of converters, and two alignment merits for the LotG +recharge).
Anyways, just looked at it as a bit of fun. Not saying your build was messed up and wrong in any way. Rather, thanks for sharing. It gave me some ideas for my /poison!
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Solvent Abuse -edit: Level 50 Mutation Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Chill Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones
- (A) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
- (3) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
- (5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (5) Blood Mandate - Damage
- (7) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
- (39) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
- (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (3) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
- (7) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
- (9) Miracle - Heal
- (50) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (13) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
- (15) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
- (17) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff
- (9) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge
- (13) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff
- (15) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
- (19) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
- (21) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance
- (17) Tempered Readiness - Damage/Slow
- (23) Tempered Readiness - Range/Slow
- (23) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Damage/Slow
- (25) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Slow
- (40) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow
- (A) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura
- (21) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (31) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage
- (34) Defense Buff IO
- (36) Defense Buff IO
- (37) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (34) Reactive Armor - Endurance
- (40) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (46) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (50) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
- (27) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
- (33) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (40) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
- (43) Mocking Beratement - Recharge
- (45) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
- (27) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
- (29) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus
- (31) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
- (34) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
- (37) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
- (31) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (39) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (39) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (36) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
- (37) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (43) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
- (A) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
- (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
- (48) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
- (48) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
- (50) Miracle - Heal
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (11) Miracle - +Recovery
- (A) Jumping IO
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (11) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (19) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
- (A) Celerity - +Stealth
Level 2: Rest
- (A) Empty
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: Born In Battle
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...[I]t would be more proper to say this game is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowly dying.
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Hey I'm glad I could help. And you're right you did improve on my build. Soft capped on 2 positionals and still keeping soft capped S/L is great! Couple that with the -to hit on Envenom and I think that will be a really tanky mastermind for sure. I only had hibernate because you guessed correctly I needed the extra panic button since my build wasn't capped to ranged. However it looks like I'll be fixing that soon.
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Originally Posted by Nyghtmaire
Hiya ToxicEel - Seeing your build description, I wondered if it would be possible to softcap your character beyond S/E types. Looks like it might be! With the protector bot bubble, you can be softcapped to AoE and ranged. Still softcapped to S/L without any help. Almost doubled the recharge and keep the endurance return just about even.
Drawback - got rid of some of your +hit point bonuses and hibernate. But....since you are softcapped you should need hibernate less Were you interested in implementing this build, you likely could fund by selling three of the four purples currently in the assault bot (assuming you have access to a number of converters, and two alignment merits for the LotG +recharge). Anyways, just looked at it as a bit of fun. Not saying your build was messed up and wrong in any way. Rather, thanks for sharing. It gave me some ideas for my /poison! |
Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM
I am leveling a bots/poison toon, and have come up with this so far. This is a solo build, and my team build has left me less than happy. I seem to tank well on 0/1 missions, and would like suggestions on making this a power solo build eventually. I see people posting about soloing 0/8 missions, and if possible I would like to do this, but the best build I can get will be the best build I can get. I plan on doing tips to get hero merits, and putting Kcombats in the melee slots, but if that is a bad idea I would like to know before hand. Also no enhancements in this as I just made it on my 2nd build slot, and tested it in a S/L damage mission I made in AE.
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Level 49 Technology Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Concealment
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Battle Drones
- (A) Empty
- (3) Empty
- (3) Empty
- (7) Empty
- (7) Empty
Level 1: Alkaloid- (A) Empty
Level 2: Envenom- (A) Empty
- (23) Empty
- (23) Empty
Level 4: Weaken- (A) Empty
- (5) Empty
- (5) Empty
- (9) Empty
- (9) Empty
Level 6: Equip Robot- (A) Empty
Level 8: Combat Jumping- (A) Empty
- (17) Empty
Level 10: Boxing- (A) Empty
- (19) Empty
- (19) Empty
- (21) Empty
Level 12: Protector Bots- (A) Empty
- (13) Empty
- (13) Empty
- (15) Empty
- (15) Empty
Level 14: Tough- (A) Empty
- (21) Empty
- (31) Empty
- (31) Empty
Level 16: Weave- (A) Empty
Level 18: Provoke- (A) Empty
Level 20: Jump Kick- (A) Empty
- (25) Empty
- (25) Empty
- (31) Empty
Level 22: Kick- (A) Empty
Level 24: Stealth- (A) Empty
Level 26: Assault Bot- (A) Empty
- (27) Empty
- (27) Empty
- (29) Empty
- (29) Empty
Level 28: Paralytic Poison- (A) Empty
Level 30: Intimidate- (A) Empty
Level 32: [Empty]Level 35: [Empty]
Level 38: [Empty]
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush- (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Empty
Level 1: SupremacyLevel 2: Rest
- (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 2: Swift
- (A) Empty
Level 2: Health- (A) Empty
- (17) Empty
Level 2: Hurdle- (A) Empty
Level 2: Stamina- (A) Empty
- (11) Empty
- (11) Empty
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