A 'Good' Attack Chain
By
BunnyAnomaly,
Posted on: 2012-06-25 09:02 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
While I don't particularly care about the whole "good" or "perfect"...or even the "highest dps" attack chains (uguuu)...
You mentioned a D/D 'troller. D/D doms seem to be just as bad. I think mine is one of the most hoppingest (new word for the day) dom I've ever had. Living Shadows(cone)>Fearsome Stare(cone)>Nightfall(cone)Engulfing Darkness(pbaoe)>maybe fire off an attack or 2>hop back Living Shadows>couple of ranged attacks>hop in Smite>OOPS fear wore off...etc. etc. etc.
With this toon i am constantly hopping in and out of the midsts of foes. If i wasn't gonna pick up combat jumping for proc mule, i would've picked it up just for the mobility just because i'm constantly on the move to kick off SOMETHING.
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You mentioned the difficulties 'while you are levelling up'. That's a pretty normal thing for me too, as I always have a weak cobbled-together attack chain until some magical point in the build where it all comes together. I typically make a 'levelling' build and then a 'final' build and respec somewhere along the way so that I don't have to gouge my own eyeballs out at the horrible levelling experience.|
Originally Posted by Comicsluvr
One of the things that sometimes troubles me as I level up characters is having a 'good' attack chain. By good I mean no gaps where you have nothing ready. However the recent Blasters threads and other game play on one of my Doms has forced me to re-think this issue.
Some very good sets have attack chains that seem a bit counter-intuitive to me. For example, my Ice/Ice Dom can get Flash Freeze (an AoE Sleep) by level 18. However most of her other AoEs like Sleet, Frostbite and Frost Breath all do damage that would break the Sleep. This seems to marginalize Flash Freeze to the point where it's a throw-away power. Yet I have trouble soloing mez-heavy mobs without it. Other characters like my Dark/Dark Controller have similar problems. Heart of Darkness, Fade and Soul absorption are all PBAoE and Twilight's Grasp works best amidst the spawn, yet the big cones on Living Shadows and Fearsome Stare seem to indicate that I'd be better off at some range. The issue with Doms and Blasters seems to be having almost too many attacks, not enough slots and a lot of juggling ranges and AoEs around. Some powers are better in brawling range while others in the same set are better ranged (like cones). What are some other difficult (or perhaps 'challenging' is a better word) power set attack chains that you know of and how do you work with them? |
As for why some attacks (and even some sets in the early progression) are just terrible? They just are. Sleeps are notorious for it. I don't know what else to say but if you really need one to be levelling then take it and respec out ASAP because the majority of them are bad.
I really think that a few well slotted attacks are worth a great deal more than a mish mash of effects that aren't heavily invested. I also find that at low levels most defences are weak and I would recomment just slotting attacks and respeccing later. This is even more the case when you find yourself using attacks that do very poor damage/endurance and you could exhaust yourself with little to show for it. Veteran attacks go a very long way towards making those early levels go by too.
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This is really true. It's hard for Doms/Blasters to do, since their primaries and secondaries are both filled with attacks (or controls, which usually need a similar amount of slotting), but if you can focus on getting 3-4 well-enhanced powers first, I find it makes the low levels a lot smoother.
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Originally Posted by BunnyAnomaly
I really think that a few well slotted attacks are worth a great deal more than a mish mash of effects that aren't heavily invested. I also find that at low levels most defences are weak and I would recomment just slotting attacks and respeccing later. This is even more the case when you find yourself using attacks that do very poor damage/endurance and you could exhaust yourself with little to show for it. Veteran attacks go a very long way towards making those early levels go by too.
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Originally Posted by BunnyAnomaly
You mentioned the difficulties 'while you are levelling up'. That's a pretty normal thing for me too, as I always have a weak cobbled-together attack chain until some magical point in the build where it all comes together.
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Very true. I never delete a toon, no matter how painful, until after at least lvl 22. Some builds just seem to stagger along until you hit SOs and then suddenly velvet ropes part and champagne falls from the heavens. The little gaps in the attack chain close, powers no longer suck all your end and enemies now seem to take notice of your damage.
I begin to understand why I see so many characters at the teens in the DFB...
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One of the things that sometimes troubles me as I level up characters is having a 'good' attack chain. By good I mean no gaps where you have nothing ready. However the recent Blasters threads and other game play on one of my Doms has forced me to re-think this issue.
Some very good sets have attack chains that seem a bit counter-intuitive to me. For example, my Ice/Ice Dom can get Flash Freeze (an AoE Sleep) by level 18. However most of her other AoEs like Sleet, Frostbite and Frost Breath all do damage that would break the Sleep. This seems to marginalize Flash Freeze to the point where it's a throw-away power. Yet I have trouble soloing mez-heavy mobs without it.
Other characters like my Dark/Dark Controller have similar problems. Heart of Darkness, Fade and Soul absorption are all PBAoE and Twilight's Grasp works best amidst the spawn, yet the big cones on Living Shadows and Fearsome Stare seem to indicate that I'd be better off at some range.
The issue with Doms and Blasters seems to be having almost too many attacks, not enough slots and a lot of juggling ranges and AoEs around. Some powers are better in brawling range while others in the same set are better ranged (like cones).
What are some other difficult (or perhaps 'challenging' is a better word) power set attack chains that you know of and how do you work with them?
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