Smoke Grenade & Aggro


Aett_Thorn

 

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I've been away for a loooong time (I left shortly after the 3rd anniversary), and with all the changes to Blaster (and toons in general, I still haven't respecced to utilize the Inherent Fitness pool), I need to use one of my banked respecs, and get my AR/DEV toon a bit more up-to-date, the mobs are complaining about my creaking joints.

One power that I was using, Smoke Grenade got changed to put the boomstick away, and in addition, shut off my stealth (Cloaking Device) while throwing it. Causing the mob to aggro on me before I shot them, which totally defeated the point of smoke grenade. (While I get that a mob should, in theory, notice when the smoke grenade goes off, I'm not so keen on dropping my stealth to chuck the SG to start with. It made for many carpet inspections until I just gave it up. I expect the mobs to be annoyed, and maybe shooting wildly, but not seeing me so quickly.)

So. Does my stealth shut off before the smoke grenade goes WHOOF now? Even though I have some respecs banked on this toon, I don't want to fritter them away on something I'm just going to switch back.


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Having a AR /Dev myself with smoke grenade. I have to be honest I never noticed this whole come out of stealth and this is one of my first toons from when the game first came out. Now it might be that OLD of a bug / issue that I forgot about it and that is how you might remember the game.

That being said I can tell you only 2 things.

1. You can switch your build at the trainer for no cost of respecs. Its basically a 2nd even 3rd build you can have. So you can test it yourself without wasting a respec. But I have not seen this issue your talking about being seen trying to toss smoke grenade.

2. I think these powers work well for AR Device. Super speed with Stealth IO and Cloaking device. Using those 2 powers I can stand in the middle of a crowd of non high perception mobs and toss a smoke grenade on them with no issues. EDIT -Forgot to add, Super speed has a stealth component which combines with the stealth IO and Cloaking Device. You could hover while having super speed on and be able to move around slowly and still have the same bonuses. For example in cave missions when its tough to super speed around sometimes.

As a side note when I see something like Ritki drones I try to smoke the walking NPC of the group hoping that they are linked so the smoke affects the drone as well, allowing me to zip past. I usually do things like that when I am running on a high setting and looking to zip to the end of a mission and work my way backwards, which is usually on a TIP mission.


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Golf, did you put some sort of proc into Smoke Grenade? If you did, that would be what is causing the aggro, not the grenade itself. If you haven't, then I would bug it, because this power is not supposed to cause aggro to my knowledge.


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I have a /dev blaster I haven't played in about 3 years, but this topic inspired me to log on to see what struck me as improbable. So with only CD on (no SS), I just ran around a mission spamming SG. No aggro.

Now, I'm not doubting that this happened, I'm going to speculate though, that you were too close and were probably going to get noticed anyway. A debuff proc will get you noticed too, but that certainly isn't the OP's issue.


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It may have been an old bug, it has been five years. Or I didn't have enough range on the SG. Or they were high perception, but I vaguely recall inspecting the floor of a Council base when I tried it. *shrug*

Plainguy: I did utilize the second build, but none of the Enhancements on my first build transferred over, and I didn't want to shell out the inf to at least put SO's everywhere. I'm not yet lvl 50 on the toon (or any of my toons, I had alt-itis, and was also playing WoW at the time), so I don't have that 3rd build.


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Of course, I could just be unobservant, my orange cat steals my braincells periodically, and I can only play late at night these days after the kids are in bed.


To become the SMASH!!! is to become one with the universe.