An odd concept Ice/ElecM/Fire


Rangle M. Down

 

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It's been a very long time since I last posted a build to the forums. I was working on an Ice Stalker and I liked it so much that I decided to work on a Tanker build. Admittedly, I'm not sure how good this is. It seems decent, but I'm used to working with Brute numbers. Never really messed with Tanks much.

Anyway, I thought this was an interesting concept, but the Endurance worries me. Can someone please take a look and tell me what you think? Thanks.

PS: Yes, this is an attempt at a farm build. That's why most of the single target attacks have Mocking in them. They're mulls for bonuses.
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Elemental Templar: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Rchg+(3), EndRdx-I(5)
Level 1: Charged Brawl -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(9), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(11), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(11), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(13), Mocking-Rchg(15)
Level 2: Havoc Punch -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(15), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(37), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(37), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(40), Mocking-Rchg(43)
Level 4: Chilling Embrace -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(5)
Level 6: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(7)
Level 8: Hoarfrost -- Numna-Heal/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(9), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(50)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Icicles -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 16: Thunder Strike -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Erad-Dmg(17), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(34), Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(34), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(37)
Level 18: Glacial Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(19), LkGmblr-Rchg+(19), EndRdx-I(21)
Level 20: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(21), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(23), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(23), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(33), Mocking-Rchg(34)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Tough -- EndRdx-I(A), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(25), Aegis-ResDam(25), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(27), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(43)
Level 26: Energy Absorption -- LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31), Efficacy-EndMod(31), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Rchg+(29), EndRdx-I(31)
Level 30: Chain Induction -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 32: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Permafrost -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-Psi/Status(36), Aegis-ResDam(36)
Level 38: Lightning Rod -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(40), EndRdx-I(40)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(42), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- Acc-I(A), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(45), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(45), LdyGrey-Rchg/EndRdx(45), LdyGrey-DefDeb/EndRdx(46), Acc-I(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg(48), Acc-I(50)
Level 49: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(7)
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 10.5% Defense(Smashing)
  • 10.5% Defense(Lethal)
  • 18.63% Defense(Fire)
  • 18.63% Defense(Cold)
  • 11.75% Defense(Energy)
  • 11.75% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 6.75% Defense(Melee)
  • 7.38% Defense(Ranged)
  • 10.82% Defense(AoE)
  • 9% Max End
  • 7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 72.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 168.7 HP (9%) HitPoints
  • MezResist(Held) 8.25%
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 2.2%
  • 11% (0.18 End/sec) Recovery
  • 58% (4.53 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 1.58% Resistance(Fire)
  • 1.58% Resistance(Cold)
  • 3% Resistance(Psionic)
  • 10% SpeedRunning



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Sorry no comment on the build... I was more curious whats your concept?


 

Posted

Build or Character?

The build is meant to be an AoE machine. Jump in the middle of a group, Lightning Rod/Melt Armor/Thunderstrike/Fireball everything to death. Chain Induction to help fill the gaps between attacks.

The characters name is Elemental Templar. He's basically a magical knight, although I haven't fleshed out the details of his story yet. I just thought it was odd because his powers are so different, thematically.


 

Posted

This would be closer to how I'd build an Ice tank. You're still soft capped to s/l/e/n before EA. More balanced on endurance management/recovery. Not a big fan of Melt Armor on a tank as I don't think you're getting all that much out of it for the endurance cost, but I left it in there for you. You're accuracy on some powers are slightly down, but your accuracy through the build is much higher. I also beefed up some of your ST attacks. Eventually you'll get down to having only bosses to fight, and AoEs are a slow way to defeat them.

I also toggled on the four accolades I like getting for the permanent +hp and +end: Atlas Medallion, Freedom Phalanx, Task Force Commander, and Portal Jockey. They do make a difference. I didn't include any incarnate abilities.

Anyway, take a look at the build and see if you like any of the changes/recommendations I made. If nothing else it may give you some ideas. Hope you like it.

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Elemental Templar: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Rchg+(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Charged Brawl -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 2: Havoc Punch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 4: Chilling Embrace -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(5)
Level 6: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Hoarfrost -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(33), Dct'dW-Heal(40), Dct'dW-Rchg(50)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(46)
Level 12: Icicles -- SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg(A), SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SMotTanker-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SMotTanker-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SMotTanker-Rchg/Res%(36)
Level 14: Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 16: Thunder Strike -- Erad-Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Erad-Dmg(17), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), FrcFbk-Rechg%(37)
Level 18: Glacial Armor -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(19), LkGmblr-Rchg+(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21)
Level 20: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(21), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(23), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(23), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(33), Mocking-Rchg(34)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(25), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), RctvArm-ResDam(27)
Level 26: Energy Absorption -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(27), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 28: Weave -- GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/Rchg(29), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), GftotA-Def(31)
Level 30: Chain Induction -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 32: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Permafrost -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 38: Lightning Rod -- Oblit-Acc/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(42), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- LdyGrey-DefDeb/EndRdx(A), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(45), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(45), LdyGrey-Rchg/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Build Up -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(33)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), P'Shift-EndMod(7), P'Shift-End%(43)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
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Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....

Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaSlade
Rangle's right....this is fun.

 

Posted

Thanks. I like the build. You make a good point about melt armor and needing single target attacks for bosses. I hadn't even considered that.

So here is a slightly tweaked version of the build you gave me. I put in some Aegis because I thought the Fire defense could use some improvement. Fire is pretty much the only major weakness this build has and I wanted to minimize that risk as much as possible. I also turned on the Agility Alpha just for kicks.

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Elemental Templar 2: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Ice Armor
Secondary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Frozen Armor

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (3) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (5) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 1: Charged Brawl
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (9) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 2: Havoc Punch
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (7) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (15) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 4: Chilling Embrace
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (5) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 6: Wet Ice
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 8: Hoarfrost
  • (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
  • (9) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
  • (33) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
  • (40) Doctored Wounds - Heal
  • (50) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
Level 10: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (46) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
Level 12: Icicles
  • (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
  • (13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (36) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (36) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
Level 14: Kick
  • (A) Accuracy IO
Level 16: Thunder Strike
  • (A) Eradication - Damage/Recharge
  • (17) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (17) Eradication - Damage
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
Level 18: Glacial Armor
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (19) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 20: Taunt
  • (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
  • (21) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
  • (23) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
  • (23) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (33) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
  • (34) Mocking Beratement - Recharge
Level 22: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 24: Tough
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (25) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge
  • (25) Aegis - Resistance
  • (27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 26: Energy Absorption
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 28: Weave
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge
  • (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
Level 30: Chain Induction
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (43) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 32: Hibernate
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 35: Permafrost
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (45) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (45) Aegis - Resistance
  • (45) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
Level 38: Lightning Rod
  • (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Damage
  • (39) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (40) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 41: Char
  • (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
  • (42) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (42) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  • (42) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
Level 44: Fire Blast
  • (A) Accuracy IO
Level 47: Fire Ball
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
Level 49: Build Up
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (50) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  • (33) Miracle - +Recovery
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Endurance Modification IO
  • (7) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (43) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 7% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 7% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 7% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 7% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 7% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 7% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 7% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 7% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 7.38% Defense(Smashing)
  • 7.38% Defense(Lethal)
  • 12.38% Defense(Fire)
  • 12.38% Defense(Cold)
  • 8.63% Defense(Energy)
  • 8.63% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 8% Defense(Melee)
  • 5.81% Defense(Ranged)
  • 7.69% Defense(AoE)
  • 5.4% Max End
  • 4% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 66% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 86.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 5% SpeedFlying
  • 161.6 HP (8.63%) HitPoints
  • 5% JumpHeight
  • 5% SpeedJumping
  • MezResist(Held) 2.75%
  • MezResist(Immobilized) 6.6%
  • MezResist(Stunned) 2.2%
  • MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
  • 6.5% (0.11 End/sec) Recovery
  • 40% (3.12 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 5.34% Resistance(Fire)
  • 2.84% Resistance(Cold)
  • 2.52% Resistance(Toxic)
  • 2.52% Resistance(Psionic)
  • 15% SpeedRunning
  • 2.5% XPDebtProtection



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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimus View Post
Sorry no comment on the build... I was more curious whats your concept?
I was thinking that same thing. When I see "concept" I always think "character concept" and all I saw was a Build, which isn't interesting to me. I think you also might be scaring away the true build enthusiasts by tossing "concept" in the thread title.

*shrug*

Maybe I shouldn't assume "concept" always means backstory.



 

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I see that you dropped Melt Armor and spread the slots around. If you're going to go with this build, I'd probably drop a Nucleolus Exposure Hami-O in Fire Blast. If you've got any enhancement boosters you could up the levels on your Hasten and Build Up IOs.

And one thing I forgot to mention: I'm not sure you'll need the recharge in Hibernate, as it is effected by phasing cool down. I don't recall the specifics, but I believe you will only be able to use Hibernate, or any other Phasing power, once every 90 secs.

Anyway. Glad you liked the build. Hope this works well for you.


Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....

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Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaSlade
Rangle's right....this is fun.

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven View Post
I was thinking that same thing. When I see "concept" I always think "character concept" and all I saw was a Build, which isn't interesting to me. I think you also might be scaring away the true build enthusiasts by tossing "concept" in the thread title.

*shrug*

Maybe I shouldn't assume "concept" always means backstory.
Yeah, sorry, I was more referring to the concept of the build than anything else. I don't know about any other server, but on Infinity we tend to see very few Ice Armor tanks... let alone Ice Armor tanks that are built for farming.

Rangle M. Down: Thanks, I'll try to keep that in mind.