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I have a Shield/Electric that i just adore. Having just acquired a full set of Might of the tank i decided to poke around to see where the best place to slot it is. What i saw confused me many tanks place it in charged brawl. Is there a specific reason for that?

My First instinct is to slot that in Thunder Strike because of all the recharge the set gives me. The only thing i could think is that you would loose set bonuses from Sciroccos's.


 

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The idea is to get the proc firing somewhat often, so you get more mileage from that. From what I have read and experienced, the tier 2 attack usually works best. Tier 1 doesn't proc enough and longer recharging powers don't let you reapply it fast enough. I would think Thunderstrike could have that issue (and Shield probably would like to have the proc up constantly to add to its resists, though maybe that's less of a concern).

Kind of depends on your build as well and what you would have to give up to slot the set as well. If you were aiming for decent Psi defense on your Shield Tanker, for instance, you might not want to drop Scirocco. Might of the Tanker is a good IO set if you can incorporate it into your overall build plan, but you do need to do that part.


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I'm putting Mine in AoEs, or Damage Auras.

I understand that Damage Auras basically keep it double-stacked. Will it stack higher? And if so, what sort of quick-firing power is best? Does it stack on activation, or on 'hits'?

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I'm putting Mine in AoEs, or Damage Auras.

I understand that Damage Auras basically keep it double-stacked. Will it stack higher? And if so, what sort of quick-firing power is best? Does it stack on activation, or on 'hits'?

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Fireheart
it activats on hits since it is 5ppm the best powers to use it in are single targets powers with 12s base recharge that said I can't imagine dmg auras are good places to put them but my thinking maybe wrong


 

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I understand that Damage Auras basically keep it double-stacked. Will it stack higher?
It will triple-stack, but that is the maximum.

The Superior version should stay triple-stacked most of the time in a damage aura, but probably not 100%.

I would stick it in whichever power you use most often for a Shield/Electric.


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it activats on hits since it is 5ppm the best powers to use it in are single targets powers with 12s base recharge that said I can't imagine dmg auras are good places to put them but my thinking maybe wrong
It works like any other proc in a damage aura. Meaning it only checks to proc every 10 seconds. If it is 5 PPM, that means it will proc on 5 out of the 6 chances it has per minute.

If the Superior version increases the PPM to 6, then it should proc every time it checks in a damage aura (assuming you have a target). I'm not 100% clear on exactly how it works in an AoE, but logic tells me that since it only gets 6 chances to even check for a proc in a given minute, it should stay triple stacked most of the time.

I can tell you from personal experience that it double-stacks consistently in my DA tank's Death Shroud.


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It works like any other proc in a damage aura. Meaning it only checks to proc every 10 seconds. If it is 5 PPM, that means it will proc on 5 out of the 6 chances it has per minute.

If the Superior version increases the PPM to 6, then it should proc every time it checks in a damage aura (assuming you have a target). I'm not 100% clear on exactly how it works in an AoE, but logic tells me that since it only gets 6 chances to even check for a proc in a given minute, it should stay triple stacked most of the time.

I can tell you from personal experience that it double-stacks consistently in my DA tank's Death Shroud.
Well we know Aoes drop the proc rate significantly based off radius and target cap, so we can safely say that it would not reach 100% even in the superior version more than that I can't say


 

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Well we know Aoes drop the proc rate significantly based off radius and target cap, so we can safely say that it would not reach 100% even in the superior version more than that I can't say
Hence why I said most of the time.


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Can the ATO even be slotted in a damage aura? I just tried switching my build over in Mids' and it didn't give me the ATO option for Lightning Field.


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I'm 99% certain that the tanker ATO proc doesn't check whether it is placed in an AoE or not because it can proc only once per power activation, not for each target hit. As a sidenote, I don't think damage auras should be able to get it past double stacked because its duration is 20 seconds (IIRC) and it can only proc twice within that time.


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