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Originally Posted by MindfulFool
But anyways, now that you got all this information... how does this build look?
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1) Damage looks a little underwhelming. Four Kinetic Combats do great things for S/L defense, but leave a lot to be desired in the accuracy and damage departments.
2) It's a personal pet peeve of mine, but I absolutely LOATHE wasting slots to make "set mules" out of things like Boxing and Brawl. (It's not like you're going to USE those powers, especially with Dual Blades, right? "Need moar redraw animation!" No, not really!
) I always think that those slots could be used to much better effect elsewhere 90% of the time. 3) I'm not sure if you deliberately stayed away from the new ATO enhancements (or just forgot about them 'cause they're newish), but if you're spending that much INF on the build as it is, what's another hundred million or two? If you split up the set and then catalyze them, that's 10% S/L defense right there!
I pretty much threw this build together in about five minutes -- you'll probably want to pay more attention to which ATO's and Eradications actually go where -- but it's ALMOST softcapped to S/L defense, has better energy/negative defense, does more damage, has more hit points and a little bit more regen. You could easily make the S/L softcap with the Agility alpha slot, or with enhancement boosters, or...or...there's probably another way with a little reshuffling, but it's so late tonight that it's becoming "early."
Hopefully this will give you another perspective on your build!Data Link: http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...E6FD3FF983E775
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"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
Thank you so much for your help!
I think with that build, you will want to go Nerve Alpha. You'll desperately need the added accuracy. Especially if you ever run at above even con diff, or if you plan to try to use the combos ever, or if you hope to do incarnate content.
I didn't look at Eldorado's build, but I'd agree with all of his suggestions and points, though.
Edit: Well, except for the set mule thing bothers me a bit less then it does him. However, I think I wouldn't push it as far as you have by using Boxing AND Brawl. Now you're talking 6 slots used up on powers you will never use. That's getting a bit excessive.
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Thank you so much for your help!
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Originally Posted by Madadh
I think with that build, you will want to go Nerve Alpha. You'll desperately need the added accuracy. Especially if you ever run at above even con diff, or if you plan to try to use the combos ever, or if you hope to do incarnate content.
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I like to run at higher difficulties, and I've therefore become a big fan of Body Mastery and Focused Accuracy on my scrappers, with a Gaussian's set for the defense bonuses, and a Perf Shifter proc in Physical Perfection to ensure that I've got enough endurance to leave FA running all the time. Unfortunately, that's not going to work for MindfulFool's fire concept and Blaze Mastery. *shrug*
My DB/WP/Body build, in case anybody can find something useful therein:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.956
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Originally Posted by Madadh
I didn't look at Eldorado's build, but I'd agree with all of his suggestions and points, though.
Edit: Well, except for the set mule thing bothers me a bit less then it does him. However, I think I wouldn't push it as far as you have by using Boxing AND Brawl. Now you're talking 6 slots used up on powers you will never use. That's getting a bit excessive. |
"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
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Originally Posted by Eldorado
Even though he's got a Kismet +6% accuracy? I like to run at higher difficulties, and I've therefore become a big fan of Body Mastery and Focused Accuracy on my scrappers, with a Gaussian's set for the defense bonuses, and a Perf Shifter proc in Physical Perfection to ensure that I've got enough endurance to leave FA running all the time. Unfortunately, that's not going to work for MindfulFool's fire concept and Blaze Mastery. *shrug* |
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| Yeah, a couple slots here or there is one thing -- six slots IS a bit excessive in my book, too. The great thing about this game is that there's a LOT of ways to build a really good mousetrap, and it just seems to me that there's often a way to avoid wasting those slots and still achieving the same goals. |
Totally agree on Body Mastery for FA (which also provides tohit debuff protection or top of the other good stuff), on the Gaussians, on Phys Per, and the extra Perf Shifter Proc. But, I can see wanting to do a different concept, too, so.
And I totally agree about there being a lot of differnt avenues you can go down and end up with a great build. But regardless, I think he's gonna want to do something to get that extra Accuracy. Maybe change some sets to a few more IO sets that also provide Acc bonuses would work, if you don't want to exemplar much. Or Nerve, but that also has the problem with exemplaring. Maybe those extra slots from the on set mule can be added into some of those attacks. For the PBAOE attacks a Acc/End from Multi-Stike or the Acc/Recharge from Cleaving Blow might be nice. Or a Nuc Hami-O. Nuc Hamis would also be my choice for the melee sets with Kin Combats in them.
Well, as has been said, lots of ways you can go with it.
Okay, here is something I've been working on. Well, not me. A friend helped start me out on a path with this build. Thanks dude!
While I don't need to be the best build, I want a decent build. I love the idea of fire melee but I'm not a fan of the animation. So! I made a dual blades person with the new fire swords.
My idea is a fire guy. I chose WP cause it's simple and I'm not a fan of radiating flames. My guy simple can create fire weapons and throw flames, thus the blaze mastery.
For my incarnate abilities, I'm taking Pyronic Judgement (Clearly) and Reactive Radial because I want my fire swords to actually set people on fire. But anyways, now that you got all this information... how does this build look?
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.956
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Lucas Brewer: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Power Slice
- Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance- Healing IO: Level 50
Level 2: Nimble Slash- Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 4: Ablating Strike- Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level ??
Level 6: Typhoon's Edge- Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level ??
Level 8: Blinding Feint- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
Level 10: Indomitable Will- Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 25
Level 12: Mind Over Body- Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- Impervium Armor - Resistance: Level 40
- Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 10
Level 14: Fast Healing- Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 30
- Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
- Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge- Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
- Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
Level 18: Vengeful Slice- Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level ??
Level 20: Quick Recovery- Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
- Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level ??
Level 22: Combat Jumping- Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 10
Level 24: Boxing- Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level ??
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level ??
- Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level ??
- Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus: Level ??
Level 26: Sweeping Strike- Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level ??
Level 28: Heightened Senses- Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 25
Level 30: Tough- Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
- Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
- Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
- Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
Level 32: One Thousand Cuts- Obliteration - Damage: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level ??
Level 35: Weave- Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 25
Level 38: Char- (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
Level 41: Fire Blast- (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (46) Devastation - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (48) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
Level 44: Fire Ball- (A) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (48) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (48) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
Level 47: Strength of Will- (A) Resist Damage IO: Level 50
Level 49: Resurgence- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: Brawl- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level ??
- (5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level ??
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level ??
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus: Level ??
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Rest- (A) Interrupt Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 4: Swift
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 4: Health- (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 10
Level 4: Hurdle- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 4: Stamina- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- (17) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level ??
Level 50: Agility Core ParagonLevel 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
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