Sandy vs Ivy what to do.. what to do ??
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Airhammer,
Posted on: 2012-05-01 05:28 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
I just built a system and went SB. The performance and overclocking et cetera worked out that I felt fine with the SB and saved myself thirty bucks (and got a bigger SSD, heh).
Basically whichever way you go you will be doing awesome and I guarantee you that if you had two systems SB and IB side by each, you could never tell the difference in how fast they played games and suchlike. Also coming from a PII? You are going to be blown away, my friend. I came from a Q6600 and the difference was mindboggling.
Question, are you going to be doing any uber-stupid overclocking?
If not, just go with the 3570K
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Problem is now I dont know which motherboard to get. I was all set on an Asus z68 Pro Gen 3 board and I could still get that but I have been told that a Z68 board wont access all the features of an Ivy Bridge board...|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Question, are you going to be doing any uber-stupid overclocking?
If not, just go with the 3570K |
The good thing is that a lot of my costs have come down.. Hard Drive prices seem to be dropping as well as the nvidia vid card prices.
Now if only SSD's would drop drastically.. I can dream cant I ??
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
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I assume this P2 system isn't your primary system, right? It's unlikely it could even start CoH!|
Originally Posted by Airhammer
Since this is replacing my old system which is a Pentium II anything I get will be light years better, I just want to make sure I do things right
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I'd recommend thinking about it based on what's most likely to be the bottleneck. A SSD will largely fix the component that's the biggest bottleneck for most users (the HDD), so you should try to set aside enough money for at least a 64GB SSD. From there, it really depends on what you'll be doing with it. Gaming? Then budget out a good nVidia GPU (if you won't use it for CoH, then ATI is also an option).
I'd recommend at least 4GB of RAM, with 6-8 a much nicer amount... but, some use cases would be fine with 2GB of ram even!
Lastly, is SB vs IvB. There's not a huge performance difference, and SB, from what I've heard, overclocks better than current IvB parts. If you're not going to overclock quite a bit or depend on the iGPU, don't go with a 'k' part when choosing a SB CPU (those are the only benefits for it). The 'k' IvB parts get a bonus 100MHz over their non-K cousins, so there's a slight benefit for non-overclockers as well.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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TL
R answer, Ivy Bridge.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
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Honestly, for a 32-bit OS, I really don't recommend dropping less than 4 in nowadays. Even if the OS won't use it all.|
Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
I'd recommend at least 4GB of RAM, with 6-8 a much nicer amount... but, some use cases would be fine with 2GB of ram even!
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And for a 64-bit gaming box, I figure 8 is a minimum. The price reduction between 8 and 4 GB is miniscule.
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| , is SB vs IvB. There's not a huge performance difference, and SB, from what I've heard, overclocks better than current IvB parts. If you're not going to overclock quite a bit or depend on the iGPU, don't go with a 'k' part when choosing a SB CPU (those are the only benefits for it). The 'k' IvB parts get a bonus 100MHz over their non-K cousins, so there's a slight benefit for non-overclockers as well. |
Moreover, most of the instabilities for OC'ing are coming when you're going for very high-end overclocks (like trying to reach 5Ghz). Lighter overclocking (like trying to reach 4-4.5Ghz) are relatively effortless.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
I assume this P2 system isn't your primary system, right? It's unlikely it could even start CoH!
I'd recommend thinking about it based on what's most likely to be the bottleneck. A SSD will largely fix the component that's the biggest bottleneck for most users (the HDD), so you should try to set aside enough money for at least a 64GB SSD. From there, it really depends on what you'll be doing with it. Gaming? Then budget out a good nVidia GPU (if you won't use it for CoH, then ATI is also an option). I'd recommend at least 4GB of RAM, with 6-8 a much nicer amount... but, some use cases would be fine with 2GB of ram even! Lastly, is SB vs IvB. There's not a huge performance difference, and SB, from what I've heard, overclocks better than current IvB parts. If you're not going to overclock quite a bit or depend on the iGPU, don't go with a 'k' part when choosing a SB CPU (those are the only benefits for it). The 'k' IvB parts get a bonus 100MHz over their non-K cousins, so there's a slight benefit for non-overclockers as well. |
Memory is so cheap these days that for a new PC 8GB is a good place to start. 2GB might be ok for an old system with DDR or DDR2 RAM where sinking money for such old tech is a waste of money.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
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My point is a lot of this depends on what your intended use of the system is. If this is, say, just a MythTV front end, then 8GB of RAM is most certainly overkill. Whatever it's being used for right now, it can't be even slightly demanding for current tech (I bet it has 512MB or less ram as is... probably closer to 128MB).|
Originally Posted by newchemicals
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Memory is so cheap these days that for a new PC 8GB is a good place to start. 2GB might be ok for an old system with DDR or DDR2 RAM where sinking money for such old tech is a waste of money. |
If the machine is just going to be used for MS Office and light web browsing, then 4GB is certainly enough memory, although as you said, 8GB is pretty dirt cheap when it comes to DDR3 RAM (sadly, this laptop uses DDR2 memory, so I paid about double when I upgraded
) so when in doubt it's not a bad idea to just default to 8.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Well as I have been saving money to build my new PC now Ivy Bridge is available and it looks like I can find some motherboards and CPU's for just a little bit more than Sandy Bridge. Ive been looking at I5 so I figure I will stay in that range. A few questions please..
It seems as if the Pro Gen 3 Asus z68 motherboards will work with Ivy Bridge. My thought is to stay with Z68 as its been out longer, the drivers might be more stable, proven platform yadda yadda yadda...
Now as far as the CPU goes I have seen Microcenter sells the i5 3570K for only 20 bucks more than the i5 2500K. Why wouldnt I spend the 20 bucks more to get Ivy Bridge. Should I spend the 20 bucks or wait until Ivy has been around for a while ???
Since this is replacing my old system which is a Pentium II anything I get will be light years better, I just want to make sure I do things right
Thanks in advance.
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-