proliferation wish list (Stalker: can we have ss)


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Originally Posted by Remaugen View Post
Dropping "Foot Stomp" from the list and adding "Sucker Punch" in for the Assassin Strike should make it work just fine.

I am all for it!
No. Just no.

Foot Stomp is the set's only AoE. There's no way they should ever see it as reasonable to repeat the mistake of Martial Arts by removing Any and All AoE capability.


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A Nacht Fist enters a room after hearing a commotion. He looks around to see the broken bodies of his comrades. Some are groaning or whimpering. Others don't make a sound. There's no sign of anyone else. He looks around, trying to find telltale signs of who the attacker was and where they went.

Pain, so intense that it could almost be white hot fire, surges through his body. Trying to turn, he soon realises his body isn't responding. Realization dawns in his agony-addled mind just as the light leaves his eyes.

Looking down at the ground, Column Breaker smiles. More approach, their footsteps echoing down the warren of tunnels and bunkers. Wrapping the shadows around himself he fades from sight, readying himself to break whoever approaches.


I'm Zortel, and I approve of Super Strength for Stalkers.


 

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I always thought that some sets should be AT specific to certain ATs...with Super Strength being specific to Tankers and Brutes.

However, with all the proliferation...that argument no longer exists.

That being said...I find it odd that Stalkers would want the set called Super Strength over the sets called Street Justice or Martial Arts for their super strength concept Stalkers. I believe those two sets are how the Stalker AT would go about using their super strength. Just because the set is called Super Strength doesn't mean it's the only set that uses super strength.

To each their own though.


 

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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
I suggested making the theme sets unique when proliferating before proliferation started (that is, each AT would have a unique version of Fire Melee, etc) but it didn't happen. Now it's too late. To bother struggling for theme now, you might as well be struggling to unproliferate sets which is *NOT* going to happen.
I love your Idea, would be awesome if they did version that fit each powerset, I could see brutes with Ninjitsu, but without Hide since ninjitsu is not all about stealth its a fighting art as well.


 

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Originally Posted by Zortel View Post
A Nacht Fist enters a room after hearing a commotion. He looks around to see the broken bodies of his comrades. Some are groaning or whimpering. Others don't make a sound. There's no sign of anyone else. He looks around, trying to find telltale signs of who the attacker was and where they went.

Pain, so intense that it could almost be white hot fire, surges through his body. Trying to turn, he soon realises his body isn't responding. Realization dawns in his agony-addled mind just as the light leaves his eyes.

Looking down at the ground, Column Breaker smiles. More approach, their footsteps echoing down the warren of tunnels and bunkers. Wrapping the shadows around himself he fades from sight, readying himself to break whoever approaches.


I'm Zortel, and I approve of Super Strength for Stalkers.
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Originally Posted by Zortel View Post
A Nacht Fist enters a room after hearing a commotion. He looks around to see the broken bodies of his comrades. Some are groaning or whimpering. Others don't make a sound. There's no sign of anyone else. He looks around, trying to find telltale signs of who the attacker was and where they went.

Pain, so intense that it could almost be white hot fire, surges through his body. Trying to turn, he soon realises his body isn't responding. Realization dawns in his agony-addled mind just as the light leaves his eyes.

Looking down at the ground, Column Breaker smiles. More approach, their footsteps echoing down the warren of tunnels and bunkers. Wrapping the shadows around himself he fades from sight, readying himself to break whoever approaches.
Yeah, really, my first thought is that a Super Strength Stalker sounds like something straight out of a monster movie. Granted, a lot of said monsters tend to have claws and stuff, too, but I think it works. They'd have to switch out Rage for Build Up, which might have strange effects on the set, though, so it'd probably take a little work.

Granted, they'd also have to change Hand Clap for Assassin's Punch, but nobody care about Hand Clap anyway, so no problem.


 

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Originally Posted by Chaos_King View Post
Except not. I want more AT uniqueness, you want less. I'd rather dev resources going towards that. And thus the disagreement.

Oh, and as for AT identity, I'm not being inconsistent. I'm going with the official definition of Stalkers and the one I'd really hope to be maintained and built upon.



Giving em SS is basically saying "yeah no more of that definition"
I'd like to add that I also want less AT uniqueness, imo AT is just the style in which you tackle a problem I for one don't want to play a SS stalker But an SS/Nin Scrapper does appeal to me so less uniqueness means more freedom and isn't that subtitle of this game anyways?


 

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Originally Posted by Cheetatron View Post
I'd like to add that I also want less AT uniqueness, imo AT is just the style in which you tackle a problem I for one don't want to play a SS stalker But an SS/Nin Scrapper does appeal to me so less uniqueness means more freedom and isn't that subtitle of this game anyways?
Personally, I love AT uniqueness. But uniqueness doesn't equate to unique powersets. Rather, I think that it's simply the case that an Elec/Elec Stalker should play differently from an Elec/Elec Scrapper, who should in turn play differently from an Elec/Elec Brute or Tank.

And I think that, for the most part, the game is pretty successful at making that happen, which is in part why it's less necessary for specific sets to be restricted.


 

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I think, like others, uniqueness should come from the AT, not the Powerset. If you don't have a concept for [Powerset] for [AT], then fair enough, but others can and do come up with things that would fit.

I'd love to see the day when all applicable powersets are shared between all applicable AT's, and it's the AT and the power changes to the sets that sets them apart, rather than someone thinking it 'doesn't make sense'.