I know next to nothing about Incarnates, yet even I know you can become 50+3...
Debate is still going on if anymore level shifts will be added though.
If you could only get to 50+1, those 54's would be way to tough.
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Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker
It seems a friend and I were discussing level shifts and one of us is clearly misinformed about how they work.
I had always understood that you get an extra level with the relevant shifting powers, so you can shift to 50+3. However he seems to think that you can only be level 50+1 - in other words, no matter how many level shifts you have you still only get +1. That seems rather odd to me - it disincentivises any reason to get the other level shifts, and counter to my experience, but I figured I'd consult the oracle and see what it brings. |
The Alpha level shift is "global" - provided you are not exemplared below level 45, it gives you a +1 no matter what.
The Lore and Destiny shifts are "incarnate" - you *only* get them while in the midst of "incarnate" activity. Up until today that meant you only got them while actively doing an incarnate trial (so you'd be 50+1 while elsewhere in the game, but you jump up to 50+3 while actually in the trial - and that *does* mean you'll actually display as 50+3, your combat modifiers will behave as though you are level 53 versus everything else, etc.) - but after I22 is finished "going live" you'll also get the incarnate shifts while you are in Dark Astoria, and while you are doing any incarnate-level missions (i.e. the story arcs in DA, and the repeatable missions there too).
So, up until today, you really were "mostly" 50+1 regardless of how many level shifts you actually had. But now the circumstances where you will actually *be* 50+3 have gone up quite a bit...
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The level shift from rare/very rare alpha slot works all the time.
The level shifts from Lore or Destiny rares/very rares only work inside incarnate trials.
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Level_Shift
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Incarnate_Shift
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It works like this. There is a +1 level shift (this applied anytime). There are 2 +1 incarnate shifts (these are applied during incarnate content only - i.e. the trials and, after today, DA). They do all stack but, it depends on the context whether it is applied.|
Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker
It seems a friend and I were discussing level shifts and one of us is clearly misinformed about how they work.
I had always understood that you get an extra level with the relevant shifting powers, so you can shift to 50+3. However he seems to think that you can only be level 50+1 - in other words, no matter how many level shifts you have you still only get +1. That seems rather odd to me - it disincentivises any reason to get the other level shifts, and counter to my experience, but I figured I'd consult the oracle and see what it brings. |
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You can absolutely get more than one level shift. I have a character that has all 3 of them and level 54 minions in the incarnate trials con yellow. If you could only have one level shift, they would con red.
Maybe your friend was confused because only one of the level shifts applies outside of incarnate content?
ah ha! Thankyou people that makes a lot of sense!
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Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker
ah ha! Thankyou people that makes a lot of sense!
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It seems a friend and I were discussing level shifts and one of us is clearly misinformed about how they work.
I had always understood that you get an extra level with the relevant shifting powers, so you can shift to 50+3.
However he seems to think that you can only be level 50+1 - in other words, no matter how many level shifts you have you still only get +1.
That seems rather odd to me - it disincentivises any reason to get the other level shifts, and counter to my experience, but I figured I'd consult the oracle and see what it brings.
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