All Veats have the same caps. Now not all have the tools to get there themselves. Crabs can take serum which boosts max HP. Also don't forget about team buffs like frostwork and stuff.
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True enough. All though I was just woundering why we cant get higher HP ourselves without outside help. like ever other AT. Blaster's can cap, defenders can cap on certain builds or get around 1550 same as doms and troller's and stalkers can cap through IO's and Acco's also. Most your looking at a 100 or 56 hp diff versus a 800 diff from a widow perspective.|
Originally Posted by Lucky666
All Veats have the same caps. Now not all have the tools to get there themselves. Crabs can take serum which boosts max HP. Also don't forget about team buffs like frostwork and stuff.
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Don't get me wrong im content with my build on my fort sitting at 1550 HP, 68% energy/neg/fire/cold, 60% S/L, 84% range, 76% melee, and 70 something to aoe.
I pvp with him still to this day with all the nerf's they took. I ask because with all the def I have and so little HP the def can end up in the negative with either rad or poison debuff's.
Yeah the highest hps I could ever manage on my NW was 1620, but I needed to make some big sacrifices for those additional +80 hps. I'm currently at what I consider a good "balance" at 1544 hps, 69% melee def, 59% ranged/AE, 177.5% rech (w/ hasten running), 71% psi resist, 31% S/L resists and 4.05% end/sec recovery. Just simply pushing for another 10-12 hps will affect a good portion of the stats I just listed in some way or another.
What's funny though is even at a lowly 1544 hps that widow can survive just about any faction at +4/x8 setting (outside of the crazy stuff like things that are autohit, etc).
It seems to me it almost sounds like a pipe dream for a Widow or Crab to reach any where near their HP Cap. To do so, one would have to have all the accolades and multiple IO sets (not to violate the rule of 5) to increase the HP to get close enough.
However, there are only 3 villain accolades that raise HPs, Born in Battle (5%), High Pain Threshold (10%), and Invader (5%). I don't see those bumping the HP up all that much. Even if you have 1550 HP, 20% of that is 210 HP giving you a total of 1860 HP. The IO sets only bump up so much. I mean if you happen to have slotted 5 Mako (1.5% = 7.5% and 5 Stupefy (1.88% = 9.4%) (or some IO sets that offer those health increases) for a total of 16.9% increase. You can reach 2174.34. I have to look at my Widow again because I think this is what I did and off the top of my head I am not sure I broke the 2,000. It can be done, just takes a lot of study, research, time, and mucho grande influence. 
Current active characters: Dragon Maiden (50+3 Brute SS/WP/PM), Black Widow Maiden (50+1 Night Widow), Catayclasmic Ariel (50 lvl Defender - Kin/DP), Quantumshock (50 lvl Elect/Energy/Energy), American's Defender (38 lvl Tanker - SD/Mace), Spider-Maiden (15 lvl Corruptor - RB/PD) & Siren Shrike (15 lvl Defender - Sonic/Sonic). My entire stable.
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That 1550 is (presumably) already including IOs and accolades. Widow base HP at 50 is 1070.9. This means you'd need +125% hp to cap, which is way way out of reach with no +hp powers.|
Originally Posted by KnightofKhonsu
However, there are only 3 villain accolades that raise HPs, Born in Battle (5%), High Pain Threshold (10%), and Invader (5%). I don't see those bumping the HP up all that much. Even if you have 1550 HP, 20% of that is 210 HP giving you a total of 1860 HP. The IO sets only bump up so much. I mean if you happen to have slotted 5 Mako (1.5% = 7.5% and 5 Stupefy (1.88% = 9.4%) (or some IO sets that offer those health increases) for a total of 16.9% increase. You can reach 2174.34. I have to look at my Widow again because I think this is what I did and off the top of my head I am not sure I broke the 2,000. It can be done, just takes a lot of study, research, time, and mucho grande influence.
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This thread is a funny mirror of the one in the Blaster forums right now, who have the opposite problem. There's no real purpose for Widows having such a high cap. It could easily have just been a copy-paste job from the other EATs, and nobody thought much about it.
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That's what im getting at .I dont have any real desire to hit the actual cap but it would be nice to get a little more hp out of him. Either way im still gonna play him regardless.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
That 1550 is (presumably) already including IOs and accolades. Widow base HP at 50 is 1070.9. This means you'd need +125% hp to cap, which is way way out of reach with no +hp powers.
This thread is a funny mirror of the one in the Blaster forums right now, who have the opposite problem. There's no real purpose for Widows having such a high cap. It could easily have just been a copy-paste job from the other EATs, and nobody thought much about it. |
Just a quick question here. What is the purpose of having the HP cap 2400 and not having the resources to even get into the 1800's. If you have 1550 HP that's about as much as you can get without gimping yourself. Im talking without rebirth wich I tried and it gave me 1909.