What do you spend Empyreans on?


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Hi everyone,
I've recently started into the incarnate system. I'm looking for some wisdom from the more seasoned incarnates out there... how do you prefer to spend your empyrean merits? Is 20 threads for 1 merit a good deal? Is it better to save up for the rarer pieces of salvage?
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Originally Posted by GrandSpleenPART2 View Post
Hi everyone,
I've recently started into the incarnate system. I'm looking for some wisdom from the more seasoned incarnates out there... how do you prefer to spend your empyrean merits? Is 20 threads for 1 merit a good deal? Is it better to save up for the rarer pieces of salvage?
GS
I generally save the Empyreans until I really need them for something. Since I rarely get anything beyond Tier 3 powers, I don't use Empyreans until after I've unlocked all five Incarnate slots, then I'll use them to create rares if needed. I usually wind up with more uncommon salvage than I can use, which I downgrade to commons.

With my last incarnate I also converted four uncommons + 100 threads to a rare, which was made a whole lot easier by doing the TPN.

The other thing to note is that the Notice of the Well can be converted to threads, which can be very useful if you happen to have any extra Notices on your character.


 

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Rares, funny enough. I have had less trouble getting very rares for the last two incarnates I made than rares.


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Rares, funny enough. I have had less trouble getting very rares for the last two incarnates I made than rares.
This, but usually I just break them down into the threads. I get bad headaches from most trials these days (the 15-20 minute assemble time doesn't help) so I can't even be bothered stockpiling 8 on one toon.


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I just hoard them infinitely until I can get a PVP IO. I also used them for the fancy, shiny armor.


 

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I used to dump them for threads, then I realized how wasteful that is. Now hoarding them for PVP IOs since trials are so quick and you get plenty of threads from running through trials anyways.


 

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Originally Posted by Sir Hextor View Post
I used to dump them for threads, then I realized how wasteful that is. Now hoarding them for PVP IOs since trials are so quick and you get plenty of threads from running through trials anyways.
Exactly where I was at too. When I first started running itrials all I wanted to do was slot those powers, wasn't really thinking. I have a different approach now with my alts.


 

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Costume pieces and threads... I have no use for the recipes that I could buy with them.



 

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Whoops, I accidentally replied to Kioshi's linked thread.

My response here.


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I spend my Empyreans on Threads so that I can Tread more lightly through the Trials.


 

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Got all the costume pieces, now mainly use them for PvP IOs. I also use them for a jump-start for new characters, as starting with a ton of threads is a nice way to begin with a few level shifts.


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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy View Post
I just hoard them infinitely until I can get a PVP IO. I also used them for the fancy, shiny armor.

I highlighted the part that applies to my approach.

I have never spent an Emp Merit. Anxiety about something I need getting gated behind them means I just stockpile them without actually using them.

(FYI I also have several characters with 800-1000 regular merits stockpiled for similar reasons. Probably irrational but a hard habit for me to break.)


 

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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex View Post
I highlighted the part that applies to my approach.

I have never spent an Emp Merit. Anxiety about something I need getting gated behind them means I just stockpile them without actually using them.

(FYI I also have several characters with 800-1000 regular merits stockpiled for similar reasons. Probably irrational but a hard habit for me to break.)
That's the opposite of what I do. I have to spend them as soon as I get them. Same with regular merits. The most I've ever had on one characters was 250. It is SO hard to save up for a PvP IO, because I know I could have a ton of threads on a new character instead.


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Breaking empyreans down into threads is useful because it means you can run far fewer trials if the main thing you're after is the incarnate boosts for use in regular content. Trials are great and everything but I'd rather run a couple a week than a couple a day. Then again, I haven't run a trial since issue 21 because I've been too busy with all the new power sets. By the time the mood strikes, issue 22 may be upon us and the new incarnate zone may well change the way empyrean merits are regarded.


 

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Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex View Post
I have never spent an Emp Merit. Anxiety about something I need getting gated behind them means I just stockpile them without actually using them.
I barely run trials anymore (I probably will when my WS gets to 50, assuming Infinity runs them semi-often), but I don't think I've spent any that I've earned either.

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(FYI I also have several characters with 800-1000 regular merits stockpiled for similar reasons. Probably irrational but a hard habit for me to break.)
THIS problem I do not have. I convert merits and burn A-Merits as fast as I earn them.


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Originally Posted by Sir Hextor View Post
I used to dump them for threads, then I realized how wasteful that is. Now hoarding them for PVP IOs since trials are so quick and you get plenty of threads from running through trials anyways.
Uh... I don't plan on doing enough iTrials on my toons to stockpile 70 so it's not really wasteful for me.


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