Some build Help


DoctorWhat

 

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This is my second attempt at building a hero in mids. My goal was to get close to the S/L damage cap and still tear through my enemies in PVE.


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street fighting: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), GS-Acc/Dmg(23), GS-Dam/Rech(23)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(7), S'fstPrt-ResKB(9)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam(11), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Sweeping Cross -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(25), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(25), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Oblit-%Dam(29)
Level 6: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(9), Numna-Heal/Rchg(29), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 8: Rib Cracker -- Mako-Acc/Dmg(A), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(13), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mako-Dam%(17), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 10: Combat Readiness -- Rec'dRet-Pcptn(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit(15), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(50)
Level 12: Jump Kick -- Dmg-I(A), Dmg-I(33)
Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Tough -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Rise to the Challenge -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(19), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 20: Indomitable Will -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(27), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(33)
Level 22: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(31), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(39)
Level 24: Spinning Strike -- JavVoll-Dam%(A), JavVoll-Acc/Dmg(31), JavVoll-Dam/Rech(42), JavVoll-Dam/End/Rech(43), JavVoll-Acc/End/Rech(45), JavVoll-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(45)
Level 26: Shin Breaker -- LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(A), LdyGrey-Rchg/EndRdx(40), LdyGrey-DefDeb/Rchg(43), LdyGrey-DefDeb(43), LdyGrey-DefDeb/EndRdx(45), LdyGrey-%Dam(46)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(42), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Rchg+(34), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 32: Crushing Uppercut -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dmg-I(36), Dmg-I(36)
Level 35: Spring Attack -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(37), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(39), RedFtn-Def(40)
Level 41: Strength of Will -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(48), TtmC'tng-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- ToHit-I(A)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(40), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(48), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(7), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(19)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3







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Always when building, start with a focus. You chose S/L soft cap. Then why didn't you stick with it? You chased some +dam, +healing, +regen, +HP, +acc. Why would you even PICK jump kick? much less slot it? Tough is empty. Shin Breaker is slotted with a defense debuff set????!!!! you have a full entire PVP set in Spinning Strike, chasing an acc bonus??

I think you should go back to the drawing board a little. Possibly look at some of the other builds posted on the forums. Feel out how most people slot things, what powers are taken, sets used.

Key sets for you will be 3 Slotting Numina's, 4 Slotting Kin Combats, 3-4 Slotting Eradication's, 4 slotting Reactive Armors. And for goodness' sake, slot Shin Breaker for damage. Always slot for the bonus you are attempting to hoard, then when you cannot anymore, slot for a secondary effect (I would suggest +HP as your secondary goal).

I feel like I am being mean, but about every other day people post builds similar to this. I'm flabbergasted and discouraged -_-



Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.

 

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This version hits harder, several attacks hit faster, has fractionally more defense, a lot more resistance, gets key powers sooner, has better endurance recovery, regens faster, has more hp, regens more HP per second due to the two previous advantages...

And despite having 2 of the most expensive PvP IOs in the game, is still cheaper to slot out.

It's also a highly functional build if you ignore the 3 defensive PvP purples and slot with far cheaper options.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(9), P'ngS'Fest-Stun%(11)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(13), Numna-Heal(13), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(15), Numna-Heal/Rchg(15)
Level 2: Sweeping Cross -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(17), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(19), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), Sciroc-Dam%(21)
Level 4: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 6: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(21), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 8: Rib Cracker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(29), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(31)
Level 10: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(25), Numna-Heal/Rchg(25)
Level 12: Indomitable Will -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal(31), Numna-Heal/Rchg(31), DarkWD-Slow%(33)
Level 18: Spinning Strike -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dam%(34)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(36), P'Shift-End%(36)
Level 22: Combat Readiness -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- SW-Def(A), SW-ResDam/Re TP(48)
Level 26: Shin Breaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Achilles-ResDeb%(39)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(40), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40)
Level 30: Boxing -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 32: Crushing Uppercut -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(42), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 35: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(43), ImpArm-ResDam(43), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(45)
Level 38: Strength of Will -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 44: Spring Attack -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(46), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 47: Dark Blast -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 49: Shadow Meld -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(5), RgnTis-Regen+(5), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(3), P'Shift-End%(3)
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3


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Free us from thought and responsibility
We shall read things off of you.
Then do them
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Originally Posted by _Pine_ View Post
I feel like I am being mean, but about every other day people post builds similar to this. I'm flabbergasted and discouraged -_-
I know that feeling. The other day a guy made a horrible TW/FA Scrapper build. With TWENTY EIGHT POINTS of Knockback protection IOs. No joke.

To be fair he said he wasn't that good at Mids, and his second build was much better.


 

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Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
This version hits harder, several attacks hit faster, has fractionally more defense, a lot more resistance, gets key powers sooner, has better endurance recovery, regens faster, has more hp, regens more HP per second due to the two previous advantages...

And despite having 2 of the most expensive PvP IOs in the game, is still cheaper to slot out.

It's also a highly functional build if you ignore the 3 defensive PvP purples and slot with far cheaper options.
Toyed with it a bit. Little lower on regen, but 36.5 S/L defense, with about 34% for E/N/F/C. One small purple will softcap you to everything but Psi, and that won't be far behind.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.953
http://www.cohplanner.com/
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(13), Numna-Heal(13), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(15), Numna-Heal/Rchg(15)
Level 2: Sweeping Cross -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(17), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(19), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), Sciroc-Dam%(21)
Level 4: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 6: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(21), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 8: Rib Cracker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 10: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(25), Numna-Heal/Rchg(25)
Level 12: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(34)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal(31), Numna-Heal/Rchg(31)
Level 18: Spinning Strike -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dam%(34)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(36), P'Shift-End%(36)
Level 22: Combat Readiness -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(36)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- SW-Def(A), SW-Def/EndRdx(33), SW-ResDam/Re TP(48)
Level 26: Shin Breaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Achilles-ResDeb%(39)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(40), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40)
Level 30: Boxing -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 32: Crushing Uppercut -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(42), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 35: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(43), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(43), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 38: Strength of Will -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 44: Spring Attack -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(46), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 47: Dark Blast -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 49: Shadow Meld -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(5), RgnTis-Regen+(5), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(3), P'Shift-End%(3)
Level 1: Brawl -- P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), P'ngFist-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3

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Originally Posted by _Pine_ View Post
I feel like I am being mean, but about every other day people post builds similar to this. I'm flabbergasted and discouraged -_-

To me you were not being mean at all, you looked at my build and gave it an honest critique, after reading your comment and the builds that others have posted I feel that I am better prepared to work at it again. So again thank you all very much, I plan on tweaking and looking at your builds to improve my mids character building.


 

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Originally Posted by _Pine_ View Post
I feel like I am being mean, but about every other day people post builds similar to this. I'm flabbergasted and discouraged -_-
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Originally Posted by Icantres View Post
To me you were not being mean at all, you looked at my build and gave it an honest critique, after reading your comment and the builds that others have posted I feel that I am better prepared to work at it again. So again thank you all very much, I plan on tweaking and looking at your builds to improve my mids character building.
I like analogies, especially car analogies, and I've likened character building and Mid's tweaking to old-school hot rod building. Some people show up with clunkers that need a lot of work, some people show up with almost-show-quality cars but want to cram a supercharger under the hood, and most show up with something in between.

Icantres brought kind of a clunker in here, but at least it had potential! I think _Pine_ is discouraged by those OTHER people last month who've shown up with the completely unidentifiable rusted-out shells, one motorized skateboard, a broken Cuisinart bolted to a hubcap, and the one guy who brought the pony.


"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner

30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04

 

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Toyed with it a bit. Little lower on regen, but 36.5 S/L defense, with about 34% for E/N/F/C. One small purple will softcap you to everything but Psi, and that won't be far behind.
I wasn't actually looking for advice, I'm quite happy with the build as it is.

And I certainly would never consider taking some of my main attacks and 5-slotting them in order to build up...Brawl. Brawl. Seriously? I realize it's a set mule, but you couldn't at least put those slots in Boxing?


Great Wall of Prophecy, reveal to us God's will that we may blindly obey.
Free us from thought and responsibility
We shall read things off of you.
Then do them
Your words guide us.
We're dumb

 

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Originally Posted by Eldorado View Post
Icantres brought kind of a clunker in here, but at least it had potential! I think _Pine_ is discouraged by those OTHER people last month who've shown up with the completely unidentifiable rusted-out shells, one motorized skateboard, a broken Cuisinart bolted to a hubcap, and the one guy who brought the pony.
I can haz pony?