TW/Ele Incarnate Question


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So i just hit 50, IO'ed, got my accolades. However im stuck on which alpha i want to get. I didnt really go for recharge in the build, and with electric, i have endurance management tools.


 

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I went with Spiritual

If you don't have alot of recharge in your build (how much do you have? just curious) currently it will make an even more significant difference for you.


 

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Originally Posted by Nosfodog View Post
So i just hit 50, IO'ed, got my accolades. However im stuck on which alpha i want to get. I didnt really go for recharge in the build, and with electric, i have endurance management tools.
Level 50, IO'd, and accolades? Did you do anything else but play COH the last few days? I'm impressed.

Edit: Seriously, tell me your secret.

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I went with Spiritual

If you don't have alot of recharge in your build (how much do you have? just curious) currently it will make an even more significant difference for you.
I agree. Endurance is a non issue with electric armor. Power Sink and Energize give you an endless supply. I say go with Spiritual because, it still does make Power Sink and Energize recharge that much sooner (so if you did have endurance issues, I don't know, I haven't played TW, you would be able to mitigate it that much sooner). Really, the issues with Electric Armor is no defense and no +HP. That means you want to be able to heal as much as possible and have as much regeneration as possible, because superior resistances only take you so far. Spiritual will do that for you by allowing you to heal and regen boost more often AND improves the amount of heal and regen you'll get with the 33# heal enhancement. With spiritual, you CAN have energize up every 30-40 seconds or so (with decent amount of recharge in your build) to heal you ~1000HPs and to give yourself 30 seconds of ~210% regeneration. Plus, you will get your sweet Build Momentum and TW attacks back up, that much sooner. To me, Spiritual T4 core is a no brainer. But I'm curious, what other options were you possible considerring?


 

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I'd think the Musculature Radial path would also be viable, if for the extra damage and end effecting powers. And, y'know, more damage. Either one works.


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I'd think the Musculature Radial path would also be viable, if for the extra damage and end effecting powers. And, y'know, more damage. Either one works.
Due to the way damage buffs work on brutes because of their low base damage and fury, Masculation isnt a very good choice for brutes.


 

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Due to the way damage buffs work on brutes because of their low base damage and fury, Masculation isnt a very good choice for brutes.
Again, I agree with DreadShinobi. The damage doesn't help you that much on a brute due to their low base damage. I would go Agility Core T4 over any form of Musculature because the EndMod would make your sapping that much better (So you would take it to make Power Sink and Lightning Field perform better, only). You would also get recharge (not as much as spiritual core, but it's still good).

So to weight the benefits between Spiritual Core and Agility Core (T4):

-Spiritual gives you 30% recharge ED protected, and 15% recharge ED affected.
-Agility gives you 22% recharge ED protected, and 11% recharge ED affected.

So for recharge, on average Spiritual will give you 9-12% more recharge to all of your powers.

With Spiritual you will get 22% Healing ED protected, and 11% Healing ED affected. This will make energize, and health perform better.

With Agility you will get 30% EndMod ED protected, and 15% EndMod ED affected. This makes you sap the enemies more.

*Note, you also get defense boost, which makes your CJ, Weave, Maneuvers, etc improve A LITTLE bit. Not enough to really merit much for an ELA.

Depending on the enemy, Spiritual or Agility will work better for you. Agility can make it so you jump in, Power Sink, and the enemy will not attack you again with anything much better than Brawl as long as they're in your lightning field. That's great damage mitigation. However, the enemies that you would really be worried about (tougher guys, like higher level bosses, AVs, etc.) may not be affected enough by your sapping. And it's these same enemies that will hit you harder, making you need to have Energize and Health to perform better.

So in the end, Spiritual wins out. You will still survive anything where endurance sapping would work... but you will not survive as easily if you rely on endurance sapping when it doesn't work.


 

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Due to the way damage buffs work on brutes because of their low base damage and fury, Masculation isnt a very good choice for brutes.
Didn't know that. Most of my melee experience is with scrappers. I stand corrected.


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I'm thinking agility. It will allow me to avoid putting much into DS or my defensive powers, and combined with Barrier it should be very easy for me to get to 32.5% to ranged and AoE, allowing me to use the majority of my slots increasing my damage potential. It will also help a little in sapping.

I'll have an alternate build that focuses on getting to 45% with Rebirth however, and I may take Musculature or Spiritual on that build.


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