I am looking for a biuild to cruise with my wife (she is a new player) I've been considering dark/invul. I know Dark and Invul have incredible synergy, as I have run it on a brute. Is there a synergy for Dark and Regen? It seems that you are heavy on click heals from both sets, and the End recovery attack in DM would not be so useful? (Not sure, I have not really run regen) As much as I love DM ( The graphics are cool for 'vamp' type themes, the utilities are incredible, great ST damage, the buff is 30 secs ) in many ways Dark is not a great set as well. I would think there would be a stronger choice to pair with a Regen character. Of course, concept and fun trump all, but I have these questions. (and hopefully my wife will join me in the cities tonight, so I need a character lol)
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While this probably would have been better asked in a different thread, Dark Melee/Regen has been a popular combination for a long time. Of course, there was a period where they were less common but now they are making a comeback. Regen is a click heavy set, that's for sure. Dark Consumption may not be all that useful for a /Regen, but other than that Dark is a great set. I don't know that there's any particular synergy really between Dark and Regen, other than both sets being spectacular on their own. The biggest advantage that Dark gives to a /Regen is -ToHit, which helps make it easier to get layered (defense, resistance, and regen) protection. Katana is also popular for a /Regen because of Divine Avalanche. With Scrappers though, it's pretty hard to pick a combination of sets that won't work well together.|
Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
I am looking for a biuild to cruise with my wife (she is a new player) I've been considering dark/invul. I know Dark and Invul have incredible synergy, as I have run it on a brute. Is there a synergy for Dark and Regen? It seems that you are heavy on click heals from both sets, and the End recovery attack in DM would not be so useful? (Not sure, I have not really run regen) As much as I love DM ( The graphics are cool for 'vamp' type themes, the utilities are incredible, great ST damage, the buff is 30 secs ) in many ways Dark is not a great set as well. I would think there would be a stronger choice to pair with a Regen character. Of course, concept and fun trump all, but I have these questions. (and hopefully my wife will join me in the cities tonight, so I need a character lol)
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To the OP, I don't have access to Mids right now because I'm on an iPad. But, looking at the build I don't see any particular problems. As long as your recharge is high enough to allow constant cycling between Shadow Meld, MoG, IH, and Barrier (which has diminishing returns remember) then you'll be pretty much impossible to kill no matter what else you do. If it was me, I'd drop Moonbeam and get Dark Blast instead. Then you could salvage a couple slots from it to put extra Resistance into Resilience.
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I'd recommend away from a DM/Self-Empathy, since the bonus mitigation from DM is akin to your secondary. Grab a Defense-set instead (/EA, /Shield, /SR) and go to town.
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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
I am looking for a biuild to cruise with my wife (she is a new player) I've been considering dark/invul. I know Dark and Invul have incredible synergy, as I have run it on a brute. Is there a synergy for Dark and Regen? It seems that you are heavy on click heals from both sets, and the End recovery attack in DM would not be so useful? (Not sure, I have not really run regen) As much as I love DM ( The graphics are cool for 'vamp' type themes, the utilities are incredible, great ST damage, the buff is 30 secs ) in many ways Dark is not a great set as well. I would think there would be a stronger choice to pair with a Regen character. Of course, concept and fun trump all, but I have these questions. (and hopefully my wife will join me in the cities tonight, so I need a character lol)
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Originally Posted by Errant
I'd recommend away from a DM/Self-Empathy, since the bonus mitigation from DM is akin to your secondary. Grab a Defense-set instead (/EA, /Shield, /SR) and go to town.
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This character has been lvl 50 for a few years now, and I'm just now renaming him and giving him an overhaul. So...yeah, I'm stuck with DM/Regen (not that I think that's a problem). I may roll a DM/SR at some point, but for now DM/Regen is what I have. Plus, hopefully, if I'm able to get my recharge high enough I'll have SR levels of defense a good bit of the time anyway.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Just wanted to close off this thread and say that, since I posted a few days ago, I've implemented this build and it's great fun to play.
If anyone should come to this thread in the future looking for a fun and not-terribly-expensive DM/Regen build, I highly recommend something like the build I'll post below. (If I'm calculating right, it only cost me about 800mill give or take, bidding over 3-4 days, and using merits and Astrals for the really expensive pieces).
I ran the remainder of Ghost Widow's patron arc tonight with a friend on +2/x8 and it was a breeze. He's no AoE machine, but if you like hard, single-target, fast-firing attack chains, this is definitely a combination to look at. I also went into a friend's AE mission and soloed Bobcat and Tyrant to really stress-test it. There really weren't too many "oh crap!" moments (I am by no means an AV-soloer at heart, so I was a little out of my comfort zone), and after considerable amounts of time I was able to bring them both down (separately, of course).
Feel free to comment if you see something that could be improved, but for the time being I'm happy with what I have. Hopefully someone else can get some use out of this build as well.
Red Hex
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Red Hex: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(3), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(3), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(5)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(7), Oblit-%Dam:50(29), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 6: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg:30(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg:30(9), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(9), Numna-Heal:50(39), HO:Nucle(40)
Level 10: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(11), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), Dct'dW-Heal:50(37), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(37)
Level 12: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(13), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(13), Dct'dW-Heal:50(15), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(15)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(46)
Level 16: Integration -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(17), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(17)
Level 18: Touch of Fear -- Abys-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Abys-EndRdx/Fear:50(19), Abys-Acc/EndRdx:50(19), Abys-Fear/Rng:50(23), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg:50(23)
Level 20: Resilience -- ResDam-I:30(A), ResDam-I:50(46)
Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 24: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(25), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(25)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- GSFC-ToHit:50(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(27), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(27), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:50(29), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx:50(31), GSFC-Build%:50(50)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(43), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(48), Numna-Heal:50(50)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(31), LkGmblr-Def:50(31)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34)
Level 35: Moonbeam -- Mantic-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), Mantic-Acc/ActRdx/Rng:50(36), Mantic-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg:50(36), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(48)
Level 41: Shadow Meld -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(42), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), S'dpty-Def/Rchg:40(42), S'dpty-EndRdx/Rchg:40(43), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(43)
Level 44: Soul Storm -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold:30(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg:30(45), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(45), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(45)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(48)
Level 49: Revive -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(A), Mrcl-Heal:40(5), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx:40(7)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I:20(A), EndMod-I:20(40), P'Shift-End%:21(46)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 8.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 5.5% Defense(Melee)
- 4.25% Defense(Smashing)
- 4.25% Defense(Lethal)
- 4.25% Defense(Fire)
- 4.25% Defense(Cold)
- 7.69% Defense(Energy)
- 7.69% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 8.63% Defense(Ranged)
- 5.5% Defense(AoE)
- 14% Enhancement(Heal)
- 32% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
- 76.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 5% FlySpeed
- 215.9 HP (16.12%) HitPoints
- 5% JumpHeight
- 5% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -4)
- Knockup (Mag -4)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 4.4%
- MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 4.4%
- 8.5% (0.14 End/sec) Recovery
- 112% (6.25 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 2.52% Resistance(Fire)
- 2.52% Resistance(Cold)
- 5% RunSpeed
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I see that you've closed this thread, but I just found it this morning. I have an old I4 to I6 DM/Regen, and with Integration on I can't remember a time when I got knocked around. With that in mind I wouldn't bother with Steadfast -KB. Move that slot to SM for the full 6 bonus, and get almost 4% Melee Def.
Also since a strong point of Regen set is the End Recovery, I'd 2 slot Integrating with Impervium (Resistance and Res/anything). Loose 0.8% Resist All for +2.5% End Rec.
I like to slot a +Stealth in SJ for those times I just want to get to the objective w/o having to deal with any mobs, or if you realy want the +KB, you could throw a Zypher KB in here and still have the extra slot we found loosing Steadfast KB.
Also if someone could check my math, I think you hit perma hasten with just 1 IO, freeing another slot. I'd move it over to Boxing, and get 2slot Pounding Slugfest for another 8%Regen.EDIT:Nope, I'm totaly off. When I call up your Mids, you had Hasten already clicked, so I was double counting the 70% buff. You actualy need 3 slots to get perma hasten 
Hey, scrappers!
I've been making some builds I'm pretty happy with recently, and I was just curious what you experts would have to add to some of them. One of these builds is my DM/Regen, Red Hex, whom I'm working on currently.
I just read the DM/Regen thread started by SickSadisticBomb and was curious to see if my build was up to par with what can be done with /Regen scrappers these days.
A few notes:
-I'm going for the alternating Shadow Meld/MoG/Instant Healing/Whichever Destiny I end up going with (thinking Barrier), so the build is focused on recharge, as I've read and experienced a /regen toon should be.
-I'm trying to steer clear of purples and PvPs. I have the cash (and other means) to get them, but I'd just rather not spend the cash on a toon that will most likely end up being one I run solo the majority of the time.
Thanks in advance for any input you can offer!
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
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Red Hex: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(3), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(3), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(5)
Level 2: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(7), Oblit-%Dam:50(29), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 6: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg:30(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg:30(9), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(9), Numna-Heal:50(39), HO:Nucle(40)
Level 10: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(11), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), Dct'dW-Heal:50(37), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(37)
Level 12: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(13), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(13), Dct'dW-Heal:50(15), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(15)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(46)
Level 16: Integration -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(17), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(17)
Level 18: Touch of Fear -- Abys-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Abys-EndRdx/Fear:50(19), Abys-Acc/EndRdx:50(19), Abys-Fear/Rng:50(23), Abys-Acc/Fear/Rchg:50(23)
Level 20: Resilience -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A)
Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 24: Tough -- ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx:30(A), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg:30(25), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg:30(25)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- GSFC-ToHit:50(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(27), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(27), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:50(29), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx:50(31), GSFC-Build%:50(50)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(43), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(48), Numna-Heal:50(50)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(31), LkGmblr-Def:50(31)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34)
Level 35: Moonbeam -- Mantic-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), Mantic-Acc/ActRdx/Rng:50(36), Mantic-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg:50(36), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(48)
Level 41: Shadow Meld -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(42), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), S'dpty-Def/Rchg:40(42), S'dpty-EndRdx/Rchg:40(43), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(43)
Level 44: Soul Storm -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold:30(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg:30(45), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(45), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(45)
Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(48)
Level 49: Revive -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(A), Mrcl-Heal:40(5), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx:40(7)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I:20(A), EndMod-I:20(40), P'Shift-End%:21(46)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals: