That's an awful lot of recharge....please either post the build or take of the destiny and/or the Force Feedback: +Recharge proc
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That is a heck of a lot of recharge... And, you can't get Hasten perma on its own. 3 slots is the optimum for most purposes (ED saw to that).
Woops, with out FF+recharge that puts me at %127. So I'm stuck with having to 3slot it? Anybody know what kind of gap I'm looking at with just 2 slots?
The difference between 2 slotting hasten is 276 seconds or 176 seconds and 3 slotting it is 265 seconds or 166 seconds (the first number is the recharge when hasten is off and the second when hasten is on).
So, with an additional lvl 50 recharge reduction in there (i.e. the 42.4% increase), you recharge about 10 seconds faster.
Sometimes 10 seconds makes all the difference.
Really though, what build are you trying? There are some sets (resist sets) that don't have enough spaces to put 5 LotG recharge globals in it for the extra recharge...
And a spiritual alpha slot helps alot, I think I design most of builds with 45% rech alpha boost
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Okay, if you have 227% global recharge with Hasten on, you can drop down to 2 slots.|
Originally Posted by Red Suzzie
The Tank build im looking at has 227% global recharge, so I'm wondering how many IO's I would need in Hasten to get it Perma? Right now I have 3, but If i can shave that down to 2 or even 1 I can use the slots elsewhere.
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You'd need something in the neighborhood of 234% global recharge with Hasten on to be perma with one slot.
BUT, if you choose to go with a Spiritual for Alpha (ANY Spiritual), you're perfectly fine for and Hasten's recharge drops down to about 112 seconds with a single slot.
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Here is my Original post http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=275355 trying for a strong DPS tank. Not sure if I got it or maybe I just got sidetracked...lol. Here is what I'm 99% sure I'm going with:
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Level 50 Mutation Tanker
Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (5) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge
- (5) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (7) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (9) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (9) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
- (11) Harmonized Healing - Heal/Recharge
- (13) Harmonized Healing - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (19) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (19) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (21) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (21) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (23) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (23) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (17) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
- (25) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
- (27) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
- (27) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (29) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
- (29) Mocking Beratement - Recharge
- (A) Empty
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (31) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (25) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (33) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
- (34) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (34) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (34) Damage Increase IO
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (A) Jumping IO
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (37) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (39) Recharge Reduction IO
- (39) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Aegis - Resistance
- (40) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (40) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (40) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
- (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
- (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
- (43) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
- (43) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (43) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (42) Recharge Reduction IO
- (46) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (45) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (45) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (45) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (46) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (48) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Empty
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (37) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
- (36) Miracle - Heal
- (48) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (17) Miracle - +Recovery
- (A) Empty
- (A) Endurance Modification IO
- (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
Hasten needs a total of 275% recharge to become perma. 70% comes from hasten itself,and if you three slot it that's another 95%. That adds up to 165% . You need another 110% to achieve permahasten,be it from IO set bonuses,spiritual alpha,or ageless destiny (i find it hard to calculate with destiny decreasing bonus,though). I reached permahasten for my dominator with sets (no purples) and spiritual t3. if you can afford purples and squeeze them in your build,it becomes a lot easier.
The best place you can find info about how to get perma hasten is the dominator forum i think,because achieving the perma hasten-perma domination combo is a must for almost all dominators. It's where i learned all the stuff i just told you.
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Just under 8 seconds with 2 slots.
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Originally Posted by Red Suzzie
Woops, with out FF+recharge that puts me at %127. So I'm stuck with having to 3slot it? Anybody know what kind of gap I'm looking at with just 2 slots?
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[QUOTE=Nitrogen_Star;3961715]Hasten needs a total of 275% recharge to become perma. 70% comes from hasten itself,and if you three slot it that's another 95%. That adds up to 165% . You need another 110% to achieve permahasten,QUOTE]
So 70% from Hasten, 83.3% 2slot IO's, and 127.5% global, thats 280.8% and perma...or am I missing something with ED?
Also, slotting KO Blow with Basilisk's Gaze is not precisely optimal.
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-Don't just rebel, build a better world, comrade! Two slots and 127% global recharge will make it perma. But i,too, would advise against slotting KO blow with basilisks.
The Tank build im looking at has 227% global recharge, so I'm wondering how many IO's I would need in Hasten to get it Perma? Right now I have 3, but If i can shave that down to 2 or even 1 I can use the slots elsewhere.