Freedom Launch - Costume Tokens a no-go?
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Posted on: 2011-09-29 07:37 in Player Questions
Check your in-game email for either the account rewards or characters rewards.
Pretty sure your tokens will be claimable from there. 
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I'm talking about the ones automatically given to players. It was for everyone to have not just me. The ones for me being a vet were already taken, they had said "When Freedom is released, everyone will get a Costume Token added to their characters, per costume slot already unlocked." As they've done in the past. The Vet Reward one, and the ones they hand out are different. In the past when they released a new issue, and announced they'd do this, I'd log into each character to instantly find the number of tokens higher. Example, (If My char had 15 before the issue release, I'd log in after, to find 20, because that character had all 5 unlocked). It was nothing I had to claim.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Check your in-game email for either the account rewards or characters rewards.
Pretty sure your tokens will be claimable from there. |
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I honestly didn't really pay attention to them this time around because most of my characters are sitting on dozens of unused tokens but it's possible that the "free non-Vet" ones are now being given to us via the new email system just like the Paragon Reward ones are. Would make sense for them to use the same system for all of them now. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by venombeyond82
I'm talking about the ones automatically given to players. It was for everyone to have not just me. The ones for me being a vet were already taken, they had said "When Freedom is released, everyone will get a Costume Token added to their characters, per costume slot already unlocked." As they've done in the past. The Vet Reward one, and the ones they and out are different.
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Well, if they did it this way now? Then no, none were given out, either when they gave us the head start, or on Tuesdays patch. I've checked all my chars, no new extra tokens via e-mail, under any of the sections, account or character or normal.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I honestly didn't really pay attention to them this time around because most of my characters are sitting on dozens of unused tokens but it's possible that the "free non-Vet" ones are now being given to us via the new email system just like the Paragon Reward ones are. Would make sense for them to use the same system for all of them now. *shrugs*
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Hrm. Pretty sure I got a bunch, which I then used to fix a couple costumes, and edit others.
If you're sure you didn't get them, send in a petition for it.
The only Tokens I got Via E-mail, were maybe 2 or 3 more, for having the EXTRA Paragon Rewards they gave us when that system switched. That couldn't be the ones they promised, or else on my toons that have all 5 unlocked, I'd have gotten 5, as they promised one, for each costume slot unlocked on said character. I'm PRETTY sure, they don't mail those to you, they just add them, like they did, recently, with the respecs. And those I got. As I saw the number on each character go up by 1 extra respec. I'd like to hear from a GM on this though if one might stop by this forum.
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Originally Posted by venombeyond82
The only Tokens I got Via E-mail, were maybe 2 or 3 more, for having the EXTRA Paragon Rewards they gave us when that system switched. That couldn't be the ones they promised, or else on my toons that have all 5 unlocked, I'd have gotten 5, as they promised one, for each costume slot unlocked on said character. I'm PRETTY sure, they don't mail those to you, they just add them, like they did, recently, with the respecs. And those I got. As I saw the number on each character go up by 1 extra respec. I'd like to hear from a GM on this though if one might stop by this forum.
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I got all my free tailor change tokens from claiming them as accountwide vet reward items on my email
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I know they at least -used- to just give them to us like you said. All I'm suggesting, because I don't know for sure, is that now that we have the email-based system for getting awards they could have switched it so that the freebie ones we're talking about come via that method now too.
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Originally Posted by venombeyond82
I'm PRETTY sure, they don't mail those to you, they just add them, like they did, recently, with the respecs. And those I got. As I saw the number on each character go up by 1 extra respec. I'd like to hear from a GM on this though if one might stop by this forum.
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Yes... so do I... I think people are misunderstanding... In the past, even after claiming the ones from Vet Rewards, or even now Via E-mail from the Paragon Rewards, they Still Gave Out, Free ones, that instantly applied to each character, that you didn't have to claim.... I've claimed all the ones given to me, for being a vet, we were SUPPOSED to get more, this was said IN a U-Stream and on the old Beta Forums, that once freedom Launched, we'd have more given to us applied to each character.|
Originally Posted by Blue Lava
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I got all my free tailor change tokens from claiming them as accountwide vet reward items on my email |
Seriously, I'm not sure how more clear I can be about this.
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Well if they did that, then I got none of them on Tuesday, cause that's when they were supposed to be handed out, once freedom was a go, and Tuesday was the official freedom launch date.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I know they at least -used- to just give them to us like you said. All I'm suggesting, because I don't know for sure, is that now that we have the email-based system for getting awards they could have switched it so that the freebie ones we're talking about come via that method now too.
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No, I only got my vet reward costume tokens given to me through account rewards.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Check your in-game email for either the account rewards or characters rewards.
Pretty sure your tokens will be claimable from there. |
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Originally Posted by venombeyond82
Yes... so do I... I think people are misunderstanding... In the past, even after claiming the ones from Vet Rewards, or even now Via E-mail from the Paragon Rewards, they Still Gave Out, Free ones, that instantly applied to each character, that you didn't have to claim.... I've claimed all the ones given to me, for being a vet, we were SUPPOSED to get more, this was said IN a U-Stream and on the old Beta Forums, that once freedom Launched, we'd have more given to us applied to each character.
Seriously, I'm not sure how more clear I can be about this. |
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Originally Posted by Avatea
And if that wasn't enough, all our VIP players will receive:
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That doesn't answer whether or not the Devs have decided to use their new method to deliver rewards (via in-game email) for these freebie tokens. Since the OP is unsure whether they were rewarded or not I think it's reasonable to at least -suspect- that the freebie tokens are now being delivered to us in the same way most everything else is now coming to us.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
How about this:
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Frankly is seems silly to me that the Devs would not use the new email system for -everything- like this now.
Why develop a new reward delivery system and not use it for everything?
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
No, I only got my vet reward costume tokens given to me through account rewards.
How about this: |
Perhaps it was simply given and you can walk up to a tailor and it be usable.. just like being able to type in /respec vs having to go to a respec arbiter
Just a thought
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Because there was already a developed script for the last, 13 issues for granting tailor tokens as part of an issue release? One that had nothing to do with the Vet Rewards System or Account Rewards? It was tested, stable, and it worked.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
That doesn't answer whether or not the Devs have decided to use their new method to deliver rewards (via in-game email) for these freebie tokens. Since the OP is unsure whether they were rewarded or not I think it's reasonable to at least -suspect- that the freebie tokens are now being delivered to us in the same way most everything else is now coming to us.
Frankly is seems silly to me that the Devs would not use the new email system for -everything- like this now. Why develop a new reward delivery system and not use it for everything? |
The original poster might not be sure, but I am. I have several characters that didn't get tailor tokens beyond my vet rewards.
I can verify that I didn't get the costume tokens on my newer characters, and they DID break a LOT of costumes (most heads are apparently broken).
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Originally Posted by Blue Lava
Snow Globe to the rescue !
Perhaps it was simply given and you can walk up to a tailor and it be usable.. just like being able to type in /respec vs having to go to a respec arbiter Just a thought |
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
No, I only got my vet reward costume tokens given to me through account rewards.
How about this: |
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Well, considering today I went to a Tailor, and used what I had, the extras were never shown, or unlocked. And if that script had come into play, then I'd have easily been given more than 2 or 3 I collected, when the VIP head Start came out, I'd have been given 5, and if it had been done when Freedom Was launched (This Tuesday), I think I'd have been given 10 in fact one some characters, since I've bought, and unlocked, the buy-able 5 extra. |
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Because there was already a developed script for the last, 13 issues for granting tailor tokens as part of an issue release? One that had nothing to do with the Vet Rewards System or Account Rewards? It was tested, stable, and it worked.
The original poster might not be sure, but I am. I have several characters that didn't get tailor tokens beyond my vet rewards. I can verify that I didn't get the costume tokens on my newer characters, and they DID break a LOT of costumes (most heads are apparently broken). That would be a new way of doing things. There is a developed, stable, and tested script that apparently wasn't run when they patched to Issue 21. It checked each character for how many costume slots it had open then gave that many tokens to the character. |
But I think something did mess up here, given the fact, that I've spoken to a bunch of people now in Pocket D and in help, who said no, they never got them either, what was promised by the post you showed.
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I have some characters that are approaching having 100 unused costume change tokens so I'm relatively well aware of how the game has been delivering these tokens up until now. |
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Because there was already a developed script for the last, 13 issues for granting tailor tokens as part of an issue release? One that had nothing to do with the Vet Rewards System or Account Rewards? It was tested, stable, and it worked.
The original poster might not be sure, but I am. I have several characters that didn't get tailor tokens beyond my vet rewards. I can verify that I didn't get the costume tokens on my newer characters, and they DID break a LOT of costumes (most heads are apparently broken). That would be a new way of doing things. There is a developed, stable, and tested script that apparently wasn't run when they patched to Issue 21. It checked each character for how many costume slots it had open then gave that many tokens to the character. |
Again all I'm saying is that since the Devs made the fairly large effort to give us this new fancy system for getting character/account awards via in-game mail that it was at least a REASONABLE suspicion that the delivery of freebie costume tokens may now also use this same system REGARDLESS of the pre-existing method.
Once again I'll make the point (based on simple engineering maintenance principles) that it'd be pretty silly for anything to be left outside the umbrella of the email method. What advantage would the Devs have by maintaining two or more legacy methods to deliver these kinds of rewards? Why bother with the email system if they didn't plan to use it for everything?
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Originally Posted by venombeyond82
I love you... Just putting that out there, thank you for finding that. At least someone else knows where I'm coming from.
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I'm just making the point, once again, that the Devs' fancy new email system OUGHT to be handling these free tokens the same way it's now handling everything else. If it isn't that'd be semi-ridiculous.
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Personally, I disagree with you Lothic, for two reasons...
One, it's just unAmerican... okay, no, that's just a silly joke on my part...
One, just because the new email system is used for some things, doesn't mean it is better to use it for all things. It's already rather full with the vet rewards and incarnate store rewards. I don't think it'd save them any resources to continue auto-delivering the free tokens to each and every character (we'll see... when they finally grant them).
Two, (although, if "one" is just my opinion, perhaps it is all just one point) I think this email system is... not very good... mainly because the email window is so damn small and you cannot really make the inbox bigger, only the field below it grows if I expand the email window. So, I have to scroll through a list of many things in a tiny window to find what I am looking for on each and every character. Not to mention... I greatly dislike how we have to claim the incarnate store items per character, instead of them being global unlocks (but that's somewhat of a side-tangent).
Anyway... As far as I can tell, we did not get those free tokens and I was starting to wonder what was up with that myself... So, thanks for starting the thread, Venombeyond. Let's see if we can get an answer. 
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Like the Freespecs? They aren't given out through the email system either.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Once again I'll make the point (based on simple engineering maintenance principles) that it'd be pretty silly for anything to be left outside the umbrella of the email method. What advantage would the Devs have by maintaining two or more legacy methods to deliver these kinds of rewards? Why bother with the email system if they didn't plan to use it for everything?
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Originally Posted by Lothic
I'm just making the point, once again, that the Devs' fancy new email system OUGHT to be handling these free tokens the same way it's now handling everything else. If it isn't that'd be semi-ridiculous.
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Checking over my logs, I was given 1 costume (edit: token) PER CHARACTER, not per costume slot unlocked.
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For what it's worth I never said I thought the email delivery system is perfect. I'm just pointing out that the Devs are clearly relying on it for a wide range of awards. And the fact that we have not gotten the latest round of freebie tokens yet may in fact be because they are trying to switch them over to use the new email system and it's not working yet. Just saying. |
Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
Personally, I disagree with you Lothic, for two reasons...
One, it's just unAmerican... okay, no, that's just a silly joke on my part... One, just because the new email system is used for some things, doesn't mean it is better to use it for all things. It's already rather full with the vet rewards and incarnate store rewards. I don't think it'd save them any resources to continue auto-delivering the free tokens to each and every character (we'll see... when they finally grant them). Two, (although, if "one" is just my opinion, perhaps it is all just one point) I think this email system is... not very good... mainly because the email window is so damn small and you cannot really make the inbox bigger, only the field below it grows if I expand the email window. So, I have to scroll through a list of many things in a tiny window to find what I am looking for on each and every character. Not to mention... I greatly dislike how we have to claim the incarnate store items per character, instead of them being global unlocks (but that's somewhat of a side-tangent). Anyway... As far as I can tell, we did not get those free tokens and I was starting to wonder what was up with that myself... So, thanks for starting the thread, Venombeyond. Let's see if we can get an answer. |
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Just because there are still examples of legacy things that don't fully use the email system does not mean that it isn't their ultimate goal to do that. Again from a software engineering maintenance point of view it would definitely be easy for them to have ONE main system to deliver all rewards to players rather than to try to maintain several various individual older systems/scripts for it.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Like the Freespecs? They aren't given out through the email system either.
When has that stopped them? Case in point, new costume bundles/parts bought from the Paragon Market, the new Reward Path Auras are simply unlocked without the need to claim them. Yet the costume parts that are bought at the Incarnate vendors still need to be claimed. |
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Those are much better points than how I expressed it.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Like the Freespecs? They aren't given out through the email system either.
When has that stopped them? Case in point, new costume bundles/parts bought from the Paragon Market, the new Reward Path Auras are simply unlocked without the need to claim them. Yet the costume parts that are bought at the Incarnate vendors still need to be claimed. ------------------------- |
And, yeah, Lothic, I'm just sayin' too. Zero worries.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Checking over my logs, I was given 1 costume slot PER CHARACTER, not per costume slot unlocked.
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I agree with you.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Just because there are still examples of legacy things that don't fully use the email system does not mean that it isn't their ultimate goal to do that. Again from a software engineering maintenance point of view it would definitely be easy for them to have ONE main system to deliver all rewards to players rather than to try to maintain several various individual older systems/scripts for it.
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I also say that all the incarnate bought costume/tailor stuff should be simply unlocked account wide instead of needing to be claimed.
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
Hrm... Interesting.
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Having read many forum posts during beta, and listening to many-a-Ustream, we were told with Freedoms launch, that we'd be getting a free costume token per character costume unlocked. You know, the fee-waved token you can use when making a costume.
I've noticed on all of my characters, no increase to these tokens. I was wondering, when these are supposed to come out, or when we'll be granted them?