complete PVP noob, completely overwhelmed


AresSupreme

 

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Hi all,

I've tried PVP very briefly in other games but always got brutally murdered because I never planned my build. I always just took whatever power looked "fun" at the moment.

Well a buddy of mine finally convinced me to give it a shot in COV, so I came here and started reading threads but my head started spinning there was so much info here. It's overwhelming.

So, I don't want to learn everything at once, but can someone just point me in the right general direction for building a good PVP villain? Also, which ones are completely useless in PVP?

Also, I will most likely be playing for free, so I'm not sure if that means I'll get my butt handed to me by all the VIP's or not. Cuz it sounds like VIP's get IO's (whatever those are).


Bloodloss -- Freedom server, blaster --energy/electricity

 

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Oh forgot that I'll probably be doing zone PVP instead of arena PVP. And will likely be teaming with only one other hero, who will be a Super strength/Fire Brute with AOE attacks.


Bloodloss -- Freedom server, blaster --energy/electricity

 

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Originally Posted by lefecious View Post
Oh forgot that I'll probably be doing zone PVP instead of arena PVP. And will likely be teaming with only one other hero, who will be a Super strength/Fire Brute with AOE attacks.
Firstly, if you're not playing on Freedom Server you should be. Secondly, just make a stalker. There are a few things you should know about stalkers but at the heart of it all they are probably the easiest vill to play with in PVP. Maybe even try a dominator. I also recommend learning to pvp in sirens call before doing RV where u will be crushed.


 

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Originally Posted by AresSupreme View Post
Firstly, if you're not playing on Freedom Server you should be. Secondly, just make a stalker. There are a few things you should know about stalkers but at the heart of it all they are probably the easiest vill to play with in PVP. Maybe even try a dominator. I also recommend learning to pvp in sirens call before doing RV where u will be crushed.
and get mids hero designer so someone can make you a build

from here

http://www.cohplanner.com/


 

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SO's only? Make a Willpower Stalker.


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Yeah if youre only using SO's, the only thing that will be able to contribute at all will be a WP stalker


 

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Thanks guys, willpower stalker it is then!

So am I right about only VIP's getting IO's?


Bloodloss -- Freedom server, blaster --energy/electricity

 

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you have to crawl before you walk. ask around for some pvp mids builds on the boards or search for them to get you started. people will post em for ya.


 

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Originally Posted by lefecious View Post
Cuz it sounds like VIP's get IO's (whatever those are).
VIA the Paragon Market this can be unlocked. However it appears to cost 160 points per 30 days. IMO it would not be worth it starting out. Takes a long time to learn what it is and by the time you've learned it it would be over. I suggest learning it on the side if you ever feel like you want to bump up your account and Sub or spend the money on points.


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@x2crunner and @x2crunner2

 

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PvP is all about knowing what is coming your way, and how to manage it with the powerset combination you possess. It is like with any pvp game, experience goes a long way so just start by getting out there any playing. Team up in zones, try arena with a few friends who you know wont give you **** even if its 11 to 0. It's a bit harder in this game because there are so many combinations, and some will be better than others. PvP functions different than PvE so my best advice to someone new is to just go out there and get your *** kicked. Figure out why and learn the system. Look at the numbers and effects behind each power and understand how they affect players. Mid's hero designer helps out with that quite a bit.

A lot of people say ranged toons are best. I think certain melee combinations can be very good simply for outlasting your opponent and wearing them down if in a duel and sometimes in zone. Get used to being ganged up on and find teams. Setup a chat bind that will call out which target you are going to attack or follow up on.

Most blasters, dominators, corruptors, and stalkers are used for damage, spikes, and debuffs. Scrappers, tanks, and masterminds are heavy disruptions/annoyance factors imo. I don't have a pvp with any one of those but when I face them I know tanks annoy the crap out of me and a good scrapper can actually crit some pretty scary damage. Controllers and defenders are good for debuffs, heals, and helping out teams. Epic AT's can be good with a lot of practice and investment. I would avoid brutes and warshades sadly... they just lack any real punch. I have seen some people make them pretty decent but they aren't very easy to make something out of.


I'd say a willpower stalker is a good way to start out, and yes IO's and incarnates make quite a bit of difference however accolades and your alignment power do as well. Start out with SO's and figure out what you want to further advance from there. Set bonuses are nice and anything giving +hp, +damage, +accuracy, +recharge, +recovery are always generally good. I hope my nonsense helps


 

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I hope my nonsense helps
I don't think it can be said any better. You hit virtually everthing and covered it well. Even if any of us could provide a complete guide to everything in the game it wouldnt do any good. Experience is key.


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Setup a chat bind that will call out which target you are going to attack or follow up on.
Below are links to info regarding binds and macros. If you cant figure it out ask and i'm sure someone will be happy to assist you in making your desired bind/macro.

Binds (binds a command to a key):
http://cityofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/Binds

Macros (puts a clickable icon on your power tray that performs the command):
http://cityofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/M...Slash_Command)


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@x2crunner and @x2crunner2

 

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Just a little thing:

How would a stalker survive/do his stuff without the 3rd layer of stealth provided by the Stealth IO, which is prio to be completly invisble. Free account doesn't have access to IO (or temporary) and stalk with only 2 layers of stealth is not invisible against a lot of toon.


 

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Originally Posted by Mc Carbonara View Post
Just a little thing:

How would a stalker survive/do his stuff without the 3rd layer of stealth provided by the Stealth IO, which is prio to be completly invisble. Free account doesn't have access to IO (or temporary) and stalk with only 2 layers of stealth is not invisible against a lot of toon.
I go into Siren's every now and then with a lvl 38 KM/nin that has only SO's. I would say it doesn't do too bad without a stealth IO. I usually stay out of range of those with +perception until they are not paying attention or fighting someone else. Then I go in for the AS Even with an enemy's perception you can stay far enough out of range not to be seen. I pop invis if I need to hit stealth cap. A stealth IO will help though..


 

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Originally Posted by Mc Carbonara View Post
Just a little thing:

How would a stalker survive/do his stuff without the 3rd layer of stealth provided by the Stealth IO, which is prio to be completly invisble
The same way they did it until IOs came out.


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