Max achieveable DDR with SD?


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Originally Posted by MajorTractor View Post
DDR becomes less useful once your at the softcap. The less often you get hit the less often you need that DDR to keep your defense high. Most of the defense debuffs that will ever be coming at you in large numbers (Romans, Machine guns, and PPD) are very small. I think at most about 7%.

So at 90% DDR that 7% turns in 0.7% leaving you, mostlikely, still over the softcap. Edit: Short durations also mean that one usually leaves before another hits.

Even at 50% DDR on my Invuln, I never seem to notice defense debuffs. Though, this might be more because in a mob he's up at about 58% defense to all but Psi and that extra breathing room makes a big difference.
But for those moments when you are surrounded by Roman or DE dropping stones all over, it's the difference between being a hero and the faceplant kid. My Shield/Dark tank felt invincible until he ran into those situations. Then I found the HO trick and all is well in the world again.


 

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Grant Cover:

Activation Time:2.50s
Recharge Time:10.00s
Endurance Cost:0.16/s
Accuracy:1.00X Available
Level:28 Power
Type:Toggle
Target Type:Self
Effect Area:AoE -- 15.00 ft. radius (255 targets max)
Aggro Type:Enemies will not notice this attack

13.84% resistance to defense on target Ignores buffs and enhancements unresistable
+30.00% resistance to recharge on target Ignores buffs and enhancements unresistable



Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.

 

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Originally Posted by Shadey_NA View Post
But for those moments when you are surrounded by Roman or DE dropping stones all over, it's the difference between being a hero and the faceplant kid. My Shield/Dark tank felt invincible until he ran into those situations. Then I found the HO trick and all is well in the world again.
I just Shield Charge them onto their butts if I start cascading down.


Moonlighter

50s include MA/SD, MA/SR, DP/Elec, Claw/Inv, Kat/Dark, Kat/Fire, Spine/Regen, Dark/SD

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Now when you do receive a defense debuff is only your defense affected or is your defense debuff resistance lowered as well?

Look at my /SD build and my /SR build my /SD build has 91.4-94% DDR depending on how I slot and my /SR build has 96.1% DDR.

If DDR doesn't drop when debuffed I feel much much better about the efficacy of these sets for my purposes.


 

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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA View Post
Now when you do receive a defense debuff is only your defense affected or is your defense debuff resistance lowered as well?

Look at my /SD build and my /SR build my /SD build has 91.4-94% DDR depending on how I slot and my /SR build has 96.1% DDR.

If DDR doesn't drop when debuffed I feel much much better about the efficacy of these sets for my purposes.
In 3800 or so hours I've never noticed getting my DDR lowered in addition to my /SR defenses ... at least enough that I ended up in cascade failure or otherwise went looking for why things went south.

Easy enough to test, of course, just add both to your monitored combat attributes.


 

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Originally Posted by Doomguide View Post
In 3800 or so hours I've never noticed getting my DDR lowered in addition to my /SR defenses ... at least enough that I ended up in cascade failure or otherwise went looking for why things went south.

Easy enough to test, of course, just add both to your monitored combat attributes.
True, you're right it should be easy to test.

I imagine with 96% DDR it would probably be extremely difficult to go into cascading failure of your defense. Paired with a heal from DM, incarnate powers, and/or aid self the set should be very durable.


 

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Now, I'm curious to what the maximum DDR of EA is.

I haven't got a level 50 /EA or one slotted appropriately to figure it out yet. I hope the mids update does come tomorrow as rumored. I suck at doing this stuff without mids. (Not sure if the EA numbers have changed with the updates from what's displayed in mids currently. Without any tricks I think I get to a little over 50%. I sure would like to see more than that)


 

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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA View Post
Now when you do receive a defense debuff is only your defense affected or is your defense debuff resistance lowered as well?

Look at my /SD build and my /SR build my /SD build has 91.4-94% DDR depending on how I slot and my /SR build has 96.1% DDR.

If DDR doesn't drop when debuffed I feel much much better about the efficacy of these sets for my purposes.
DDR should not be debuffed. They are two separate attributes, and the attributes are not mathematically interconnected. (Your DDR is not a function of how much +defense you have.) Critters that apply -defense debuffs to date only apply -defense, not -DDR. So there's no reason DDR should decrease.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Can someone tell me the difference between two membranes and three in Active defense? Also what's the value for two 50++?

I'm on a mac so no mids for me to check myself.

and @Gospel. You can do better than 50++. There are 51, 52, and 53s out there. So you can do 53, 52+ or 51++. Good luck finding and affording them, but they do exist.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
Can someone tell me the difference between two membranes and three in Active defense? Also what's the value for two 50++?

I'm on a mac so no mids for me to check myself.

and @Gospel. You can do better than 50++. There are 51, 52, and 53s out there. So you can do 53, 52+ or 51++. Good luck finding and affording them, but they do exist.
As far as I know a 50++ is = to a 52. A 51+ would be = to a 52, a 52+ = to a 53 etc.

I've always understood the plus as an indicator of an added level.

If there's a difference in efficacy from 50+ and 51, I've been under a, porbably, very common misconception.


 

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Originally Posted by Werner View Post
Unless something has changed, Mids' calculates DDR differently than the game. It's a little easier to hit 95% in game. I'm going to leave it at that, though. I'm not attempting to be mysterious; I just don't want to discuss what may be considered exploits.
Dun dun dun! *Insert dramatic sting music here*

And I don't mean the Police type of Sting either....

Oh....geez.....I just got what it was funny that he was named Sting and part of the band Police.


 

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Originally Posted by Gospel_NA View Post
As far as I know a 50++ is = to a 52. A 51+ would be = to a 52, a 52+ = to a 53 etc.

I've always understood the plus as an indicator of an added level.

If there's a difference in efficacy from 50+ and 51, I've been under a, porbably, very common misconception.
Your understanding is the same as mine. You had said something about 50++. I mentioned you can do better. 50++ = 52. I showed three different ways to get a 53 equivalent, slightly better than a 52. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough (see my sig hehe).


"Hmm, I guess I'm not as omniscient as I thought" -Gavin Runeblade.
I can be found, outside of paragon city here.
Thank you everyone at Paragon and on Virtue. When the lights go out in November, you'll find me on Razor Bunny.