Badge Question - Praetorian "Moral High Ground" badge
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Blondeshell,
Posted on: 2011-09-01 15:08 in Player Questions
Leaving Praetoria counts as your 5th choice.
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I was wondering if that was the case! So, since you choose either Hero or Villian, is there a connection between Resistance/Loyalist and Hero/Villian in this choice, or does it not matter? Thank you!!!!! :-)
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Have you actually finished the last mission and zoned to Paragon City? Because if I remember correctly, the final decision (hero/villain) counts as #5.|
Originally Posted by Feint_of_Heart
Ok, how do you actually get this badge? ParagonWiki says "Choose Loyalist or Resistance morality five times". I've played through the Praetoria arcs on my Resistance character...all of them, and am at level 19.7. I have chosen Resistance in every moral situation. As I think through things, you choose once at the beginning, and once in each zone. That's four times, not five. Do you make a fifth choice anytime? Do I have to turn off XP and try to run another Resistance arc before outleveling everything?
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Alternatively, you can turn off xp and there is another opportunity to earn a morality credit that you would normally miss due to outleveling it. Depends on what contacts you've done and what side you're in, but the last zone is generally the one I tend to outlevel.
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No, I haven't left Prae yet. I've run the tutorial, three other morality missions (one in each zone), and started the second Resistance arc in Neu (Warden) just in case. I have played it very cautiously because I want to grab as many Prae badges as possible. Thanks!|
Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
Have you actually finished the last mission and zoned to Paragon City? Because if I remember correctly, the final decision (hero/villain) counts as #5.
Alternatively, you can turn off xp and there is another opportunity to earn a morality credit that you would normally miss due to outleveling it. Depends on what contacts you've done and what side you're in, but the last zone is generally the one I tend to outlevel. |
- Feint
PS: See my second question above. Does picking Hero or Villian when you leave Prae have a specific relationship to Resistance or Loyalist? I would hate to pick Hero and it not count as my fifth Resistance pick. Thanks again!
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IIRC, You have 13 oportunities to select Loyalist/Resistance.
First is at character creation/tutorial.
Then each of the three city zones(Nova Preatoria, Imperial City, Neutropolis) has four morality arcs. One each for Warden, Crusader, Power, and Responsibility.
So, in order to gain the Moral High Ground, you will have to do at least one arc from at least one of the other Preatorian "Alignments"
Edit: Dang, almost too slow. No, choosing Hero/Villain does not count.
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I outlevel arcs in every zone. My record for progress toward this badge is 2 and that's off of 5 praetorian characters. Only one has ever been in a team and that was for a whopping 2 missions. And I've never yet run one of the newspaper/radio/equivalent missions. I really wish the arcs were shorter. I do have permanently maxed patrol experience though, since I rotate through my alts I rarely play any one of them regularly.
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
Alternatively, you can turn off xp and there is another opportunity to earn a morality credit that you would normally miss due to outleveling it. Depends on what contacts you've done and what side you're in, but the last zone is generally the one I tend to outlevel.
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There are more than 5 options presented to you, provided you run both Storylines for your chosen side, and the undercover Storyline for your non-chosen side.
For example, as a member of the Resistance, run both the Warden and the Crusader storylines, and also run the Responsibility Storyline for Loyalists.
Even though Calvin Scott tells you to talk to either Robert Flores or Ricochet, you can actually choose both. Pick one, talk to them, then call Calvin Scott, and he'll offer you the other contact. Then, in Nova Praetoria, go talk to Chief Interrogator Washington, and you can run his arcs, too.
Dr. Arvin, Seer 1381, and Dark Watcher will each give you a Moral Choice for the Warden Storyline. Jack Hammer and Wardog will both give you a Moral Choice for the Crusader Storline. Finally, Celopatra, Chance McKnight, and Anti-Matter will each give you a Moral Choice for the Responsibility Storyline. That's a total of 8 Moral Choices, plus your 1st if you do the Tutorial, and your 10th and final Moral Choice when you leave Praetoria.
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Ok, thanks everyone! I guess I will turn off XP and run the second Resistance arc in Neu for that badge as well as a Loyalist arc so I can claim that badge as well. Wow, now it's two badges instead of one! Thanks again!!!
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Note that choosing Resistance or Loyalist in the tutorial does not count towards Moral High Ground. If you stick with (for example) only Crusader arcs, then that's three morality choices right there, plus one for choosing Hero or Villain, and then you're out. If you want the badge, you must do at least one arc for a faction other than the one you're usually doing (eg all the Crusaders and a Warden, all the Responsibility and a Warden, stuff like that). The choice when you go to Primal Earth then counts as the fifth choice, and you get your badge.
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You don't have to make five of the same Moral Choice, you just have to make five Moral Choices.|
Originally Posted by Feint_of_Heart
PS: See my second question above. Does picking Hero or Villian when you leave Prae have a specific relationship to Resistance or Loyalist? I would hate to pick Hero and it not count as my fifth Resistance pick. Thanks again!
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But to answer part of your question, Resistance are considered to be Heroes, Loyalists are Villains. But then there's a wibbly-wobbly thing where Resistance Crusaders are Villains (storywise) and Loyalist Responsibility are Heroes (storywise), and even then it all comes down to how you roleplay your character, if at all. But the game engine seems to view Resistance as Heroes, Loyalists as Villains (the same way Vigilantes are Heroes and Rogues are Villains).
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
But to answer part of your question, Resistance are considered to be Heroes, Loyalists are Villains. But then there's a wibbly-wobbly thing where Resistance Crusaders are Villains (storywise) and Loyalist Responsibility are Heroes (storywise), and even then it all comes down to how you roleplay your character, if at all. But the game engine seems to view Resistance as Heroes, Loyalists as Villains (the same way Vigilantes are Heroes and Rogues are Villains).
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Ok, how do you actually get this badge? ParagonWiki says "Choose Loyalist or Resistance morality five times". I've played through the Praetoria arcs on my Resistance character...all of them, and am at level 19.7. I have chosen Resistance in every moral situation. As I think through things, you choose once at the beginning, and once in each zone. That's four times, not five. Do you make a fifth choice anytime? Do I have to turn off XP and try to run another Resistance arc before outleveling everything?
Sorry, I'm just confused over this one. I'd appreciate any and all clarification...I am simply not bright enough to figure this out on my own! ;-)
- Feint
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