I need help with a SD/DM tank!


CaptainBrawl

 

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Hey i have a Shield defense/dark Melee Tank and i thought i was doing pretty good with slots and stuff. I'm not really rich so i only have a few IO's atm but i was wondering what/how should i build him...which powers i need and what powers i can live without etc etc...Right now im using the Ice epic power pool for the extra AoE with hasten combat jumping hover as extra toggles. For my alpha slot i have Spiritual for my interface slot i have Reactive and for my judgement i have Ion. I have Mids so if any one wants to link me a build with semi cheap IO sets that would be awesome! i want to rebuild the toon because i dont like the way it feels atm but i love the powers so im not in love with any extra powers i have (flight hover etc) or even with my Epic power pool..so im a clean Slate! do what you want with me! lol


 

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Well if u can show us what u have via mids we can help ya out.


 

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Well if u can show us what u have via mids we can help ya out.
how do i do that? lol or do i gotta make it my self in mids? lol im still pretty new to the program


 

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how do i do that? lol or do i gotta make it my self in mids? lol im still pretty new to the program
Do you have Mids' installed? If so, the easiest way to get your build into it is to install Titan Sentinel and export your build in a Mids'-compatible format, which is done by selecting Tools -> Utilities -> User Profile. Once you have it in Mids' you can paste it in a forum message here.

Both programs can be found here:

http://www.cohtitan.com/

Mids' is an option under "CoH Planners"

Hope that helps.


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actually...i havent looked at my slots since i hit 50 i forgot how bad it was..ok so maybe i need a lil more help then i said earlier..haha


 

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actually...i havent looked at my slots since i hit 50 i forgot how bad it was..ok so maybe i need a lil more help then i said earlier..haha
Yeah, definitely needs work. Your attacks are painfully underslotted for damage and end reduction and you have a ton of wasted slots in Phalanx Fighting, Stamina, Fly, AAO, and One with the Shield. I also hope this isn't leveling order because waiting until level 49 to get your mez protection must have been extremely painful.

You didn't say what you're looking for, a SO/IO build or a full-blown set build, so here's a real quick SO build to give you a general idea of what you should be thinking of doing. If you want set IOs you'll want to move slots around some, so let us know. I dropped some of the epic attacks for Tough and Weave, and then dropped Smite and replaced Hover with Air Sup. I only used one set IO, the Steadfast +Def, and I'd recommend getting it even if you don't want to go for a full-fledged set IO build. As it is, it's a little less than 3% below the soft-cap for all positions, so you should be able to soft-cap with a few set bonuses.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.942
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CaptainBrawl: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Arctic Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Deflection -- EndRdx(A), DefBuff(3), DefBuff(3), DefBuff(5), ResDam(19), ResDam(21)
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- Acc(A), EndRdx(5), Dmg(7), Dmg(27), Dmg(31)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- EndRdx(A), DefBuff(7), DefBuff(9), DefBuff(9)
Level 4: True Grit -- Heal(A), Heal(11), Heal(11), ResDam(13), ResDam(23), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(25)
Level 6: Air Superiority -- Acc(A), EndRdx(13), RechRdx(15), Dmg(15), Dmg(25), Dmg(40)
Level 8: Shadow Maul -- Acc-I:50(A), EndRdx(17), RechRdx(17), Dmg(19), Dmg(27), Dmg(40)
Level 10: Against All Odds -- EndRdx(A)
Level 12: Active Defense -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(31)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight(A)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(21), RechRdx(23)
Level 18: Boxing -- Acc(A)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- DefBuff(A)
Level 22: Siphon Life -- Acc(A), EndRdx(29), RechRdx(29), Heal(31), Dmg(33), Dmg(39)
Level 24: Taunt -- Range(A)
Level 26: Shield Charge -- Acc(A), EndRdx(33), RechRdx(34), Dmg(34), Dmg(34), Dmg(36)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Acc(A), EndRdx(36), RechRdx(36), Dmg(37), Dmg(37), Dmg(37)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff(48)
Level 32: Tough -- EndRdx(A), ResDam(33), ResDam(39), ResDam(39)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Acc(A), RechRdx(40), RechRdx(42), Dmg(42), EndMod(42)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Acc(A), EndRdx(43), RechRdx(43), Dmg(43), Dmg(45), Dmg(45)
Level 41: Weave -- EndRdx(A), DefBuff(45), DefBuff(48), DefBuff(48)
Level 44: Chilblain -- Acc(A), RechRdx(50), Dmg(50)
Level 47: One with the Shield -- ResDam(A)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- EndRdx(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal(A), Heal(46), Heal(50)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod(46), EndMod(46)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 3% Defense(Melee)
  • 3% Defense(Smashing)
  • 3% Defense(Lethal)
  • 3% Defense(Fire)
  • 3% Defense(Cold)
  • 3% Defense(Energy)
  • 3% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 3% Defense(Ranged)
  • 3% Defense(AoE)

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Originally Posted by Finduilas View Post
Yeah, definitely needs work. Your attacks are painfully underslotted for damage and end reduction and you have a ton of wasted slots in Phalanx Fighting, Stamina, Fly, AAO, and One with the Shield. I also hope this isn't leveling order because waiting until level 49 to get your mez protection must have been extremely painful.

You didn't say what you're looking for, a SO/IO build or a full-blown set build, so here's a real quick SO build to give you a general idea of what you should be thinking of doing. If you want set IOs you'll want to move slots around some, so let us know. I dropped some of the epic attacks for Tough and Weave, and then dropped Smite and replaced Hover with Air Sup. I only used one set IO, the Steadfast +Def, and I'd recommend getting it even if you don't want to go for a full-fledged set IO build. As it is, it's a little less than 3% below the soft-cap for all positions, so you should be able to soft-cap with a few set bonuses.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.942
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
CaptainBrawl: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Arctic Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Deflection -- EndRdx(A), DefBuff(3), DefBuff(3), DefBuff(5), ResDam(19), ResDam(21)
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- Acc(A), EndRdx(5), Dmg(7), Dmg(27), Dmg(31)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- EndRdx(A), DefBuff(7), DefBuff(9), DefBuff(9)
Level 4: True Grit -- Heal(A), Heal(11), Heal(11), ResDam(13), ResDam(23), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(25)
Level 6: Air Superiority -- Acc(A), EndRdx(13), RechRdx(15), Dmg(15), Dmg(25), Dmg(40)
Level 8: Shadow Maul -- Acc-I:50(A), EndRdx(17), RechRdx(17), Dmg(19), Dmg(27), Dmg(40)
Level 10: Against All Odds -- EndRdx(A)
Level 12: Active Defense -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(31)
Level 14: Fly -- Flight(A)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(21), RechRdx(23)
Level 18: Boxing -- Acc(A)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- DefBuff(A)
Level 22: Siphon Life -- Acc(A), EndRdx(29), RechRdx(29), Heal(31), Dmg(33), Dmg(39)
Level 24: Taunt -- Range(A)
Level 26: Shield Charge -- Acc(A), EndRdx(33), RechRdx(34), Dmg(34), Dmg(34), Dmg(36)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Acc(A), EndRdx(36), RechRdx(36), Dmg(37), Dmg(37), Dmg(37)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff(A), DefBuff(48)
Level 32: Tough -- EndRdx(A), ResDam(33), ResDam(39), ResDam(39)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Acc(A), RechRdx(40), RechRdx(42), Dmg(42), EndMod(42)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Acc(A), EndRdx(43), RechRdx(43), Dmg(43), Dmg(45), Dmg(45)
Level 41: Weave -- EndRdx(A), DefBuff(45), DefBuff(48), DefBuff(48)
Level 44: Chilblain -- Acc(A), RechRdx(50), Dmg(50)
Level 47: One with the Shield -- ResDam(A)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- EndRdx(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal(A), Heal(46), Heal(50)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod(46), EndMod(46)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 3% Defense(Melee)
  • 3% Defense(Smashing)
  • 3% Defense(Lethal)
  • 3% Defense(Fire)
  • 3% Defense(Cold)
  • 3% Defense(Energy)
  • 3% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 3% Defense(Ranged)
  • 3% Defense(AoE)

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haha no it wasnt lvling order just respecced randomly
thanks for the builds man


 

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i want a IO build soon..when i get some more inf...im just to poor right now...if you wanna post 1 that i can go to after i get enough money to have lots of good IO sets that would be way cool...ill start it when i hit like... a bill inf


 

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Personaly the damage in Dark Consumption isnt really that usefull, the damage aint that high and putting in a 2nd endmod would give you a better gain even with few mobs. Same goes for Siphon life, this is your only heal power, going for 2acc/2heal/2recharge is imho better then slotting it with damage.

Even with softcap, hits that will bypass your defense can still hurt, with a 50ish% SL resist freakshow bosses can hit pretty hard, having a solid heal i would prefer over a bitty more damage.


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I actually run this tank, so this build is tested and functional. I wanted to see how cheaply I could build a decent tank, and sd/dm seemed like the best candidate. One could probably skip the health uniques and the p.shifter procs, but they made levelling up to dark consumption less painful. I've solo'd Chimera and Shadowhunter with this build, took down a rikti pylon (don't ask how long it took- a Long Time), and can tank/solo most factions (at 4x8). Arachnose and carnie dark mistresses are still rough. Malta sappers must die NAO, and I recommend a bind for those and DE crystals. I got the Gaussian's set for cheap and at random low levels, ditto the steadfast 3%. The Crushing Impact was a recipe drop my character got. The switch from SOs to standard IO's felt like a big increase in performance.

For a set IO build, I'd probably switch to pyre for fireball- also, the utility of char is nice. Losing the set of gaussian's, I'd pick up Mako's in an ST attack, Oblit's in SC, maybe 6 slot pshifters in stam? Then build for rech, more rech, HP, and recovery. A bit more recharge would really wake this build up, hero tips are a good way to earn lotg +7.5s.

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Originally Posted by SinergyX_EU View Post
Personaly the damage in Dark Consumption isnt really that usefull, the damage aint that high and putting in a 2nd endmod would give you a better gain even with few mobs. Same goes for Siphon life, this is your only heal power, going for 2acc/2heal/2recharge is imho better then slotting it with damage.

Even with softcap, hits that will bypass your defense can still hurt, with a 50ish% SL resist freakshow bosses can hit pretty hard, having a solid heal i would prefer over a bitty more damage.
As I said, this was a quick build, and I do agree that dropping the damage slotting in Dark Consumption wouldn't do any harm.

However, I'm going to disagree about Siphon Life, since it's a superior damage attack as well as a heal. Going from the 66% damage enhancement in the build I posted to none will drop the damage almost 60 points. That's a non-trivial difference, especially in an attack you're going to use a lot.

The good news is that with set IOs you can get a lot closer to fully slotting for both heal and damage, so I'd recommend going that route.


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Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012

 

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Siphon Life is a to taste thing. It was a power best 6 slotted with Hamis pre IO sets and perhaps still is. It offers more hitpoints per end than it does dam per end but there is an argument to go either way depending on how tough the tank generally is anyway and so it is, to taste.


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