DM/SD build: as good as it gets?

Centurion_A · 08-24-2011 09:07 AM

Here is the build I am currently working on. I expect it to be done soon. Is there a way to improve it? I think this may be the toughest character I have ever built in Mids and am very much looking forward to seeing him in action. I have the character at level 47 presently and already have some of the sets slotted.

There are so many great synergies between Dark Melee and Shield Defense. Defense+Self Heal. Soul Drain+Shield Charge. One with the Shield+Dark Consumption. Defense+Acc debuff.

EDIT: UPDATED. Thanks for the suggestions. Now I just need a few billion. Just pased the 1 billion influence mark last week. I think I'll need 4 billion more. Between the IOs I already have and merits, I can make up the rest.

Key stats:
Regen bonus maxed (well, almost... at 289%)
Defense: All positions softcapped
Max HP 132%
Great on endurance (gain 2/sec with all toggles on... and have conserve power)... maybe even too much endurance?
Inherent +30% bonus to damage before Soul Drain
142% recharge with hasten up (only down for 20 seconds)

Only hole is Psionic. Resistances are a tad low, but seemed like a better bet to boost max hit points with true grit.
Nice eh? After this guy is rigged out I'll post some notes on performance.

Any feedback on the build?

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.94
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Knight of the Raven2: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
(5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 1: Deflection

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 2: Battle Agility

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Shadow Maul

(A) Obliteration - Damage
(13) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 6: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(17) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(36) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
(46) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range

Level 8: True Grit

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(36) Healing IO
(37) Healing IO
(46) Healing IO

Level 10: Siphon Life

(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(21) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(21) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(46) HamiO:Golgi Exposure

Level 12: Boxing

(A) Empty

Level 14: Super Jump

(A) Unbounded Leap - Jumping

Level 16: Active Defense

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 18: Dark Consumption

(A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(25) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
(37) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: Tough

(A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
(27) Aegis - Resistance
(27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(33) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge

Level 22: Against All Odds

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 24: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 26: Soul Drain

(A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(34) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 28: Phalanx Fighting

(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Level 30: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

(A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance

Level 35: Shield Charge

(A) Armageddon - Damage
(40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(40) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(40) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 38: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 41: Tactics

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 44: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 47: Physical Perfection

(A) Miracle - +Recovery
(50) Miracle - Heal

Level 49: One with the Shield

(A) Endurance Modification IO

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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift

(A) Empty

Level 2: Health

(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(31) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(34) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(43) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Empty

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(19) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(19) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
(36) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy

tektronics · 08-24-2011 10:05 AM

First off I'm going to suggest you try and make it to the softcap if you can, DM does have a to-hit debuff but in large crowds you are going to have trouble keeping everything debuffed especially considering that DM isnt exactly AOE friendly

First I have to ask, do you plan on doing Incarnate powers? If so which Alpha?

Now for you build and what I don't like:

First off you don't have the recharge to seamlessly run MG>Smite>SL>Smite, MG needs to recharge at the very least in 4.488s but most tend to get a tad lower than that for server lag, I believe Werner clarified this in a post I made awhile ago. It looks like even with just the T1 Spiritual Alpha you would be able to run the top chain.

Secondly and honestly even more important because I just noticed it. You skipped over Phalanx Fighting. That is a free gimme 3.75% def one slot wonder, drop assault and take that and you are softcapped.

True Grit is vastly underslotted

I would advise against using Reactive Armors in Tough, its a tiny tiny positional bonus for many slots

If you plan on running the top chain many would suggest putting the Heca set in smite so that proc can fire off more.

Siphon Life is a very good heal and you didn't enhance that aspect of it, some people (like myself) went 3 Acc/Dam Hami-os and 3 Heal/End Hami-os. There is another thread lying around that had many more combinations for slotting Siphon Life.

I would personally put a Rech IO in Active Defense, it gives you DDR and getting it to doublestack really helps you get that up and since you skipped over Grant Cover and not using Membranes (not uncommon) your DDR is rather low.

Hope this helps, and if anybody sees I said something wrong please correct me, 3 hours of reading syllabi drains your brain...right?

Centurion_A · 08-24-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tektronics

First off I'm going to suggest you try and make it to the softcap if you can, DM does have a to-hit debuff but in large crowds you are going to have trouble keeping everything debuffed especially considering that DM isnt exactly AOE friendly

First I have to ask, do you plan on doing Incarnate powers? If so which Alpha?

Well, damage, naturally. This is a scrapper and I like hitting things.

If your phalanx fighting proposal works the way you say it does, then problem solved. If it requires at least 1 teammate to provide any bonus... problems. EDIT: DOODER, it requires at least 1 ally. That is not an inherent softcap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tektronics

Now for you build and what I don't like:

First off you don't have the recharge to seamlessly run MG>Smite>SL>Smite, MG needs to recharge at the very least in 4.488s but most tend to get a tad lower than that for server lag, I believe Werner clarified this in a post I made awhile ago. It looks like even with just the T1 Spiritual Alpha you would be able to run the top chain.

Yeah, I have to throw out the odd Shadow Maul to make up the difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tektronics

Secondly and honestly even more important because I just noticed it. You skipped over Phalanx Fighting. That is a free gimme 3.75% def one slot wonder, drop assault and take that and you are softcapped.

Doesn't phalanx fighting only work if I have at least one ally nearby? If so, then I don't want to rely on it. If not... well then hell, that is AWESOME. If it supplies a BASE of 3.75% defense all of the time and then a bonus on top for 1 teamate that is huge. EDIT: Looks like it doesn't work that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tektronics

True Grit is vastly underslotted

I would advise against using Reactive Armors in Tough, its a tiny tiny positional bonus for many slots.

Did it for the defense. If phalanx fighting works the way you imply it does, then I absolutely agree with you. As for true grit... resistance slotting I assume? How do yo uslot tough? Aegis for the Psionic IO?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tektronics

If you plan on running the top chain many would suggest putting the Heca set in smite so that proc can fire off more.

Good thought. I agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tektronics

Siphon Life is a very good heal and you didn't enhance that aspect of it, some people (like myself) went 3 Acc/Dam Hami-os and 3 Heal/End Hami-os. There is another thread lying around that had many more combinations for slotting Siphon Life.

Man. I figured the thing is being fired off every 5 seconds or so if I need it to for a 10% heal. I'm willing to concede the point and add a 6th slot for healing. Really like the 5-slot crushing impact, though. It does beastly damage

Quote:

Originally Posted by tektronics

I would personally put a Rech IO in Active Defense, it gives you DDR and getting it to doublestack really helps you get that up and since you skipped over Grant Cover and not using Membranes (not uncommon) your DDR is rather low.

Hope this helps, and if anybody sees I said something wrong please correct me, 3 hours of reading syllabi drains your brain...right?

Never had a problem with Active Defense the way it is.

Thanks for the help. Thoughts on my responses? Really really want to verify that if I am out soloing with no teammates I still get the +3.75% bonus to phalanx fighting. EDIT: looks like it needs at least 1 ally. That is not going to work if I want a real softcap

Centurion_A · 08-24-2011 10:39 AM

Here is a soft cap version, all positions. Again, I think Phalanx Fighting requires at least 1 teammate and I don't want to have to rely on that.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.94
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Knight of the Raven2: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
(5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 1: Deflection

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 2: Battle Agility

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Shadow Maul

(A) Obliteration - Damage
(13) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 6: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(17) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(46) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(46) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 8: True Grit

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 10: Siphon Life

(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
(21) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
(21) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
(23) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(23) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 12: Boxing

(A) Empty

Level 14: Super Jump

(A) Unbounded Leap - Jumping

Level 16: Active Defense

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 18: Dark Consumption

(A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(25) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
(37) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: Tough

(A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
(27) Aegis - Resistance
(27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(33) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge

Level 22: Against All Odds

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 24: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 26: Soul Drain

(A) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
(31) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
(34) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
(34) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(34) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 28: Maneuvers

(A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
(29) Red Fortune - Endurance
(36) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
(36) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
(36) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Red Fortune - Defense

Level 30: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

(A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance

Level 35: Shield Charge

(A) Armageddon - Damage
(40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(40) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(40) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 38: Tactics

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(42) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 41: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(42) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Physical Perfection

(A) Miracle - +Recovery
(45) Miracle - Heal

Level 47: One with the Shield

(A) Endurance Modification IO

Level 49: Assault

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift

(A) Empty

Level 2: Health

(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(48) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(48) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(50) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(50) Numina's Convalescence - Heal

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Empty

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(19) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(19) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge

Amy_Amp · 08-24-2011 11:35 AM

RE: Phalanx Fighting

DEF(Melee, Ranged, AOE) +2.25% for 0.81s If target is another player

DEF(Melee, Ranged, AOE) +3.75% for 1.25s [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs] Effect does not stack from same caster

Is this not showing in game? That looks like a default 3.75% buff no matter what.

Centurion_A · 08-24-2011 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy_Amp

RE: Phalanx Fighting

DEF(Melee, Ranged, AOE) +2.25% for 0.81s If target is another player

DEF(Melee, Ranged, AOE) +3.75% for 1.25s [Ignores Enhancements & Buffs] Effect does not stack from same caster

Is this not showing in game? That looks like a default 3.75% buff no matter what.

Well, hell, I was going off of mids... and even there failed to note that it says it DOES exactly what you say. Apologies all around. That is fantastic news.

Sailboat · 08-24-2011 11:56 AM

Is this a character you've played a lot and are just setting up the final build for? Or is this more theoretical?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

EDIT: DOODER, it requires at least 1 ally. That is not an inherent softcap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

If it supplies a BASE of 3.75% defense all of the time and then a bonus on top for 1 teamate that is huge. EDIT: Looks like it doesn't work that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

Really really want to verify that if I am out soloing with no teammates I still get the +3.75% bonus to phalanx fighting. EDIT: looks like it needs at least 1 ally. That is not going to work if I want a real softcap

You keep posting like you've confirmed this somehow. What is making you think it works that way? Because I can confirm it works as tektronics and Amy_Amp say -- it gives you a fixed defense bonus even with no one else on your instanced map.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy_Amp

Is this not showing in game? That looks like a default 3.75% buff no matter what.

Yep.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

Yeah, I have to throw out the odd Shadow Maul to make up the difference.

Shadow Maul only hits/debuffs a max of 5 enemies. I recommend the soft cap, especially since you're so close already.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

As for true grit... resistance slotting I assume? How do yo uslot tough? Aegis for the Psionic IO?

First and foremost, slot heal IOs for more hit points. It would be feasible to slot, say, 3 common heal IOs and then 3 of some resistance set for a small set bonus. Or 4 heal IOs from a set (try to hit the ED cap on heal enhancement though).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

Man. I figured the thing is being fired off every 5 seconds or so if I need it to for a 10% heal. I'm willing to concede the point and add a 6th slot for healing. Really like the 5-slot crushing impact, though. It does beastly damage

Here your thinking is more in line with what I typically see recommended. I myself slot it as a pure attack and let the healing take care of itself.

If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog

Sailboat · 08-24-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

Well, hell, I was going off of mids. Apologises all around. That is fantastic news.

Ah, sorry, simulpost. I think it's possible to display it correctly in Mids, too, but I haven't looked. I have Phalanx Fighting on a Mids build and it's always shown me the defense I expect.

If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
----------------------------------------------------------

The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog

ricohdah · 08-24-2011 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

Well, hell, I was going off of mids. Apologises all around. That is fantastic news.

When you click Phalanx Fighting with teammates at 0, toggle PF on and off. It shows the extra 3.5% in your defense totals.

If I had a character like yours, I would take Spiritual Core Alpha instead of Musculature. With both AAO and Soul Drain active, there's a good chance you will be above the damage cap and Musculature won't be doing anything for you. Spiritual will help make sure you have Soul Drain perma.

Centurion_A · 08-24-2011 12:42 PM

So this is character is about to be built. Many of the sets are in place and the character is level 47. I am currently saving up influence for the purples.

Regen bonus maxed
All positions softcapped
Max HP 132%
Great on Endurance (gain 2/sec with all toggles on... and have conserve power)... maybe even too much endurance?
Inherent +30% bonus to damage before Soul Drain
142% recharge with hasten up (only down for 20 seconds)

Only hole is Psionic. Resistances are a tad low, but seemed like a better bet to boost max hit points with true grit.

Great suggestions from all. Thanks. I am updating the front page with the following:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.94
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Knight of the Raven2: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
(5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 1: Deflection

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 2: Battle Agility

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Shadow Maul

(A) Obliteration - Damage
(13) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 6: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(17) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(36) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
(46) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range

Level 8: True Grit

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(36) Healing IO
(37) Healing IO
(46) Healing IO

Level 10: Siphon Life

(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(21) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(21) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(46) HamiO:Golgi Exposure

Level 12: Boxing

(A) Empty

Level 14: Super Jump

(A) Unbounded Leap - Jumping

Level 16: Active Defense

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 18: Dark Consumption

(A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(25) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
(37) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: Tough

(A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
(27) Aegis - Resistance
(27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(33) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge

Level 22: Against All Odds

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 24: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 26: Soul Drain

(A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(34) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 28: Phalanx Fighting

(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Level 30: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

(A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance

Level 35: Shield Charge

(A) Armageddon - Damage
(40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(40) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(40) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 38: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 41: Tactics

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 44: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 47: Physical Perfection

(A) Miracle - +Recovery
(50) Miracle - Heal

Level 49: One with the Shield

(A) Endurance Modification IO

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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift

(A) Empty

Level 2: Health

(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(31) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(34) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(43) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Empty

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(19) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(19) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
(36) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy

DoctorWhat · 08-24-2011 12:52 PM

Haven't looked at the build yet, so don't know how tight it is, but if you can spare the slots then put some Resistance IOs into Deflection since it houses SD's S/L resistance.

Centurion_A · 08-24-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorWhat

Haven't looked at the build yet, so don't know how tight it is, but if you can spare the slots then put some Resistance IOs into Deflection since it houses SD's S/L resistance.

Nice. I suppose I can drop 1 slot out of conserve power as I expend 1.43 end/sec but gain 3.43/sec. And I have Dark Consumption. I suppose I can gain a second slot by dropping to 2 heal IOs in True Grit from three.

James_Donner · 08-24-2011 01:22 PM

my 2 cents. Lose tactics and body. Get Blaze, Fireball is just that good.

Drop hasten, with proper slotting you can have the S/SL/S/MG chain running all day without the hassle of hasten. plus, fireball is just that good. I like fire blast as well for that little bit of range damage.

You can have all that, 2100HP and should still have softcap def without running combat jumping.

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Centurion_A · 08-24-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Donner

my 2 cents. Lose tactics and body. Get Blaze, Fireball is just that good.

Drop hasten, with proper slotting you can have the S/SL/S/MG chain running all day without the hassle of hasten. plus, fireball is just that good. I like fire blast as well for that little bit of range damage.

You can have all that, 2100HP and should still have softcap def without running combat jumping.

I like hasten. Keeping it. I have the extra power slots. I did try dropping tactics and Body, adding Blaze and slotting fireball with Ragnorok.

Highly amusing. I also like this melt armor idea as a back up to soul drain. I am still at 45% on AOE but dropped to 44% for melee and ranged. I also dropped from 289% regen to 260%.

The second AOE is pretty huge, though. As is the third purple set.

I figure I can drop body as I can run at a 1.7 end/sec surplus and have dark consumption available every minute.

Question: is 200% accuracy good enough? I suppose with perma Soul Drain running, it is.

Amy_Amp · 08-24-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

Well, hell, I was going off of mids... and even there failed to note that it says it DOES exactly what you say. Apologies all around. That is fantastic news.

Always good to check here.

Santorican · 08-24-2011 03:32 PM

Add a third slot to hasten, slot in two miracles to True grit and that is all I have for now. I'll look at it more a little later.

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Centurion_A · 08-24-2011 04:02 PM

Good catch on the miracles. Nice. Fixed.

Hasten only has a 14 second downtime as is. Seems to me that third slot is better used elsewhere.

I also changed it to include fire ball. Ragnorak is amusing. As is melt armor+soul drain.

New stats:

44% in melee and ranged defense. Not too worried as minions will die with my AOE and bosses will get massive acc debuffs from my attacks.
45% in AOE
152% recharge bonus with hasten
261% regen bonus
Running at a 2 end/sec surplus
Max HP at 125%
34% smash/lethal resistance
2 AOEs which is fun

Feeling pretty good about this.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.94
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Knight of the Raven2: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

(A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
(3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
(5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 1: Deflection

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Aegis - Resistance
(50) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance

Level 2: Battle Agility

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Shadow Maul

(A) Obliteration - Damage
(13) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(17) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 6: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(17) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(36) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
(46) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range

Level 8: True Grit

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(36) Miracle - Heal
(37) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 10: Siphon Life

(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(21) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(21) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(23) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge

Level 12: Boxing

(A) Empty

Level 14: Super Jump

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(45) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
(45) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 16: Active Defense

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 18: Dark Consumption

(A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(25) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
(37) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: Tough

(A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
(27) Aegis - Resistance
(27) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(33) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge

Level 22: Against All Odds

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 24: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 26: Soul Drain

(A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(34) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 28: Phalanx Fighting

(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Level 30: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(33) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

(A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance

Level 35: Shield Charge

(A) Armageddon - Damage
(40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(40) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(40) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 38: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 41: Ring of Fire

(A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure

Level 44: Melt Armor

(A) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
(46) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge

Level 47: Fire Ball

(A) Ragnarok - Damage
(48) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(48) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(50) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
(50) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance

Level 49: One with the Shield

(A) Endurance Modification IO

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Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift

(A) Empty

Level 2: Health

(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(31) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(34) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(43) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Empty

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(19) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(19) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
(36) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy

Mage_Black · 08-25-2011 07:40 AM

This is my current build.Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.942
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Bastion Rook: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- Cloud-ToHitDeb(A), Cloud-Acc/ToHitDeb(3), Cloud-Acc/Rchg(3), Cloud-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Cloud-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Cloud-%Dam(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Rchg+(9), Aegis-ResDam(9), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(11), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(31)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(13)
Level 4: True Grit -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(15), Numna-Heal(27), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(36), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(46)
Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(19), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(19), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Oblit-%Dam(34)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(15), Nictus-Acc/Heal(17), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(17), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 10: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(23), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(25), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Erad-%Dam(36)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A)
Level 22: Super Speed -- HO:Micro(A)
Level 24: Kick -- ExStrk-Acc/KB(A), ExStrk-Dmg/KB(37), ExStrk-Dam%(40)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(27), GSFC-Build%(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(43), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(43), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(43)
Level 28: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 30: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-ResDam(33), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(33), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(46), Aegis-Psi/Status(50)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(34), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(36), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), T'Death-Dam%(39)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-%Dam(39), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(40), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 38: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Char -- HO:Endo(A)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(45), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dam%(50), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- SW-ResDam/Re TP(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany
Level 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(29), P'Shift-End%(33)

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Sailboat · 08-25-2011 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centurion_A

bosses will get massive acc debuffs from my attacks.

Nitpick: to-hit debuffs. The game isn't very precise about terminology, and sometimes says "acc debuff" on some powers, but you cannot debuff accuracy as it now exists in the game, just to-hit. Although, if you could, you could soft-cap for the best to-hit protection and then acc debuff to lower the chance of being hit even further. :P

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Santorican · 08-26-2011 07:03 AM

By adding a 3rd slot to Hasten you decrease its recharge time by 7 seconds. That's pretty significant.

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