'Limited' - partial access, or unlockable access?


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I cancelled years ago, and am now back at the tail end of a 15-day code they emailed me sometime last month.

When Freedom hits - just how limited is stuff going to be? I've looked at the side-by-side comparison here - http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/f...cho.php#tabs-4 - but it's kind of vague.

Auction House is limited. Does that mean a certain number of transactions per day/week/month?

Mission Architect is limited. Can I play those missions, but not create new ones?

Inventions are limited. Do I get the basic types, but not the set ones?

Or is all of that shut off until stuff is unlocked somehow?

and while I can understand losing the global channels, being shut out of both Help and Broadcast seems kind of overkill.


 

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You'll want to look at the dev chat highlights for more details, but perhaps this will answer some questions.


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We're going into our featured discussion: Paragon Rewards.

Tier 1, EVERYBODY gets this. Some people wanted to call it Tier 0, some marketing guy said it didn't sound marketing friendly.

Limited costume slots, but unlimited preview. Still customizable.

2 Global character slot tokens.

Cannot join SG's at the base tier.

Can't use IO's. Can still use TO/DO/SO and Hami-O's.

Limited chat channels.

Largely done to nip the RMTers in the bud.

"If you look at any games that have relaxed chat privalages, it is immediate and terrifying."

No Mission Architect access. Since itÂ’s a bit more of a drain on server resources.

Limited item drops, only small inspirations. No salvage. Cannot craft. No recipes. Cannot trade. Influence cap of 25 million INF.

I was wondering the first day of beta why I went from 1-15 without a drop.

No hero of villain merits. No auction house.

Limited enhancement inventory space.

Obviously no Incarnate access.

This is for a Free player. Someone who has never subscribed or bought paragon points.

They will get access to the LFG tool, the help channel, local chat, and be able to queue up for the Sewer Trail.

Returning players will have 1 reward token per badge you've earned, 1 reward token per year's subscription, and 1 token if you've ever used a code from a physical box. 1 total, not one per boxed set.

1 token per month and one token per 1200 PP bought.

Posi: "I had a friend of mine actually calculate how much he has to pay to get Tier 9 on day 1. He was excited about it."

This is going into the Premium tier rewards, since most VIP's have this baked in.

Going over a lot of things that VIP's get that Premiums have to pay for or have to unlock via tiers.

Zwill apologizes if this week's coffee talk is a bit try. Posi recommends the chat give tangent ideas.

Tier 2. You earn the Trustworthy badge. 3 months currently or 1 month once Freedom is out.

Can join SG's and SG Chat.

Private Tells.

Trading.

INF cap to 500 million

Additional inventory size.

+2 Salvage, +1 Vault

In game e-mail.

Mission Architect system, but you can't get tickets. Just to play content.

Reminder that this is for Premium players, non-VIP, non subscribers.


Tier 3

Loyal Badge

All chat channels. (Broadcast, Global, Etc)

Chat tangent: Bacon. Makes Zwill want Bacon.

Posi: "Bacon nearly killed my father in law."

Zwill: "Bacon has nearly killed generations of people."

1 Billion INF cap.

Increased inventory again.


Tier 4

Steadfast Badge

Can earn Vanguard Mertis and Reward Mertis

Inventory space goes up again

INF cap at 2 billion (the max)

Medium inspirations.

Lifetime Auction house license.

MA with tickets and XP and such.


Tier 5

Addicted Badge, 36 months

Permanent Mastermind and Controller access

Inventory size increases.

A thank you for sticking through.

If you previously bought access to them, you DO NOT get a refund.


Tier 6

Abiding, 57 months

Access to create MA stories.

Reminder that they will be selling limitless MA story slots.

Posi: "There is probably a server limit somewhere. But if someone hits it, we'll increase it."


Tier 7

Purposeful badge, 78 months

Tangent: Posi is astonishes that Zwill has to schedule his lunches and thus is a huge *********.

Zwill and Posi want the veteran token bar to change colors.

Lifetime IO Access

Piyerus: "I'm still a bit confused. Do we need the first badge in the tier to be in that tier, or do we need to totally fill the tier (get the final badge) to be in that tier?"

You do not make the selections in the tier. You just need to earn the amount of tokens for the badge.

Another reminder that the access mentioned here is Non-VIP players and that these are the AUTOMATIC rewards. Not stuff you have to pick and choose.

More inventory space.


Tier 8

Radiant badge

Zwill: "Not recommended to buy your way here at once."

They have measures in place to prevent single purchases of PP this high.

Large insps get added onto the drop table.

More inventory space.

VIP subscribers get +150 PP per month. Just under an extra $2 of PP per month.


Tier 9

The repeatables and the VIP exclusive Tier 9 things. Like the 3 aspects of Celestial armor.

Tier 8 is what they have the +150 PP listed in the document from Clockwork 01.


Reward meter has it's own button in the beta.

Posi doesn't want to answer " are you guys saying "Tier 8" meaning "you are currently filling in tier 8" or "you have finshed filling in 8?" because he doesn't want to get it wrong.

Arbiter Home Alone says that they're now called Reward Levels, rather than Tiers.

Second Measure shows his Sthulhu for president shirt. "Are you ready for some Real change?" "Why vote for the lesser evil?" "Go with the Elder God you know."



Posi sighs and apologizes for the piles upon piles of jargon and working on the game has gotten three times harder.

Posi: "If a VIP at Tier 9 drops to Premium, what will they lose access to?"

Incarnate system and powers.

Anything labeled VIP only, like time manipulation unless they buy it in the store.

Lose the VIP server.

Not going to get the PP stipend or the monthly transfer tokens.

You'll lose the 12 per server base slots.

You keep any banked transfer tokens. They do stack.

You will keep all Paragon Points earned from the monthly VIP stipend.

Tangent: The Coming Storm and saving PP for a rainy day.

"It's raining Shivans, hallelujah it's raining Shivans!"

Reading off the veteran reward token badges. Will copy/paste these in later.

Rookie, 1 token (freebie)
Trustworthy, 2 tokens
Faithful, 3 tokens
Dependable, 4 tokens
Loyal, 5 tokens (Tier 3)
Zealous, 6 tokens
Staunch, 7 tokens
Steadfast, 8 tokens (Tier 4)
Devoted, 9 tokens
Dedicated, 10 tokens
Committed, 11 tokens
Unswerving, 12 tokens
Addicted, 13 tokens (Tier 5)
Ardent, 14 tokens
Fervent, 15 tokens
Eternal, 16 tokens
Battle Hardened, 17 tokens
Tried and True, 18 tokens
Allegiant, 19 tokens
Abiding, 20 tokens (Tier 6)
City Traveler, 21 tokens
Honorable, 22 tokens
Enduring, 23 tokens
Genuine, 24 tokens
Distinguished, 25 tokens
Resolute, 26 tokens
Purposeful, 27 tokens (Tier 7)
Uncompromising, 28 tokens
Loyal Customer, 29 tokens
Tenacious, 30 tokens
Unshakable, 31 tokens
Diligent, 32 tokens
Persistent, 33 tokens
Radiant, 34 Tokens (Tier 8)
Over this and you're in Tier 9 and into the repeatable and limited time only VIP rewards


 

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Originally Posted by Guardsman View Post
I cancelled years ago, and am now back at the tail end of a 15-day code they emailed me sometime last month.

When Freedom hits - just how limited is stuff going to be? I've looked at the side-by-side comparison here - http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/f...cho.php#tabs-4 - but it's kind of vague.

Auction House is limited. Does that mean a certain number of transactions per day/week/month?

Mission Architect is limited. Can I play those missions, but not create new ones?

Inventions are limited. Do I get the basic types, but not the set ones?

Or is all of that shut off until stuff is unlocked somehow?

and while I can understand losing the global channels, being shut out of both Help and Broadcast seems kind of overkill.
Or in other words:

No auction house for new free accounts.

No AE for new free accounts.

Small sized inventories, only small inspirations and no recipes/IOs at all.

You can buy 30 day access to these things via paragon points.

I think they get access to help channel, but *shrug* I kinda agree but there you have it.


Also, if you log in with your old account, chances are you'll have some vet rewards that will knock you into a higher tier and maybe you won't have to deal with some of this stuff.


 

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That helps a bit. Can see how you work your way up Architect availability, but it doesn't say anything about steps between 'no access' and 'lifetime access' to Auction House and Inventions.

Thanks, now to go hunt for dev chats.


 

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If you check out www.Paragonwiki.com, and search for "Paragon rewards" they have a list there of how many tokens are required to reach each tier. For the auction house lifetime liscense, there is no partial step because it's real quick.

I know you need about 13 tokens for tier five, not sure what it is for tier four, but you get the free token (tier 1) and if you've a pre-existing accoutrements, you'll have the one for having bought one or more boxes. That's tier 2 right there. Plus one per vet badge, and one extra for each 12 month vet badge, and it adds up.


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Originally Posted by Guardsman View Post
That helps a bit. Can see how you work your way up Architect availability, but it doesn't say anything about steps between 'no access' and 'lifetime access' to Auction House and Inventions.

Thanks, now to go hunt for dev chats.
Before getting tier 4 for auction house, and tier 7 for inventions, the best you can do is buy the limited time access to them.


 

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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon View Post
Before getting tier 4 for auction house, and tier 7 for inventions, the best you can do is buy the limited time access to them.
Or simply pony up the $15/month and get it all of course.

I think I'll be tier 8 if I were to drop my sub on my main account and my second, dropped several months ago, will be around tier 6.


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Well keep in mind that the Reward levels are based on the number of Reward Tokens earned. All previous players will earn RTs equal to:

  • One per Veteran Badge you have
  • One per full year you've subscribed
  • One if you used a retail box code at some point while subscribed (and only one)
To gain Reward Level 4 (Lifetime Market) only needs 8 RT. So if you've had been subbed at least a year & 1/2 overall, you'll have that when CoH:Freedom launches. The amount of RTs needed for Levels 5 and up tend to be a lot more, but basically a 5 year Vet, like me, will have just enough for Reward Level 7 at CoH:F launch.

Also don't forget you will earn a RT for Every 1200 Paragon Points ($15 US) spent (VIP PP Credits excluded).

Thank you for the time...


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Originally Posted by Call Me Awesome View Post
Or simply pony up the $15/month and get it all of course.
Well, there is that, yes.