VIP Subscription Cost vs. Current Subscription Cost
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Anaku,
Posted on: 2011-06-24 10:30 in Developers' Corner
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Well ain't YOU just the li'l optimist...
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Originally Posted by Blue Lava
(until its brought up again on the next thread a few months from now)
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Wow, for once, I really did LOL, rather than just typing it. |
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I am killing you with my mind.
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Sold. Time to knock a lot of holes in the Grandville walls and install elevators in the Abyss.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I think for $30 a month, there should be a special type of sub called an Incarnate, which lets us edit the layout of zones in ther same way we can edit bases.
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Your mind already kills people. |
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
But how much will I be paying per month so that I can kill someone with my mind?
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Wait until Freedom goes live. Only step necessary.
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Originally Posted by HypnoChick
What I don't see is HOW to upgrade to VIP.
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I'm on a pretty tight budget.. as in i saved up cash, just to buy the 12+2 month trial so i can save literally 60 bucks a year on my CoH costs. The way i figure it, i got an additional 4 months free with that purchase, so it was more then worth it.|
Originally Posted by TheJazMan
I agree BUT some of us are on budgets. Do you think we will wait until we have enough VIP points to purchase a power or costume pack or power? Maybe. More than likely, I doubt it.
Makes me kinda wonder why keep paying a monthly sub. I know if I don't it may lock some of your toons (if you have a ton of alts like me). That is my concern. I don't mind reduced content access; most of the content is a re-hash; I am betting the signature arc will be the same old maps with a new story (*yawn*); and the trials are kinda lame after the first 50 times ( ).Anyway, something to mull over... |
Right now, when a booster comes out i really want i either wait until a holiday and beg my relatives, or i go without (as in, without the booster) until i can afford it.
I've also used all my character slots, and while i do want more, i can't afford it, so i go without.
With the new system in place i earn 400 points a month, by just paying what i normally pay, which means over time, i can buy that booster pack i want (or really, just the costumes in said pack) or buy additional character slots without actually having to change my budget at all. I see that as a net GAIN instead of a net LOSE.
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Although I have no 'Inside Information' (despite having attended both the CoH pannel at PAX 2011 and the meet and greet at Elephant and Castle) I think that StratoNexus has the gist of it. It is my thought that NC Soft/CoX is trying to attract More People to play the game so that they Will BUY PREMIUM MEMBERSHIPS (or VIP or whatever they call it). |
Originally Posted by StratoNexus
As a percentage of product, I believe our subscription will be buying us less than it used to. As an absolute amount of product, I believe our subscription will be buying us more.
We will be getting more for our subscription money, but there will be more stuff we can choose to spend yet still more money on. I discuss the same concept here, with visuals. |
I intend to maintain my yearly paid account. It costs me less to play City of Heroes (on a monthly basis) than it would for me to go to a movie and get a drink and a popcorn; I get much more enjoyment from City of Heroes, and more time spent with friends (both online and real life). And no one throws popcorn at Me if we laugh out loud, chat, etc. YMMV!
Duty, it is the most sublime word in the English language, you can never do more, you should never wish to do less.
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I hope You stay Whipster, I've been a player since the Beta Test, and I am guessing you have been around almost as long. I want Lots of people to be playing CoH so that the game remains strong (and in business). But Seriously, BASE RENT, that's your biggest complaint about City of Heroes?!? I have bigger complaints than that and I am a Huge Fan of the game! Maybe I am missing something, I am an Alt-aholic, I have more than 12 Toons on every Server (except the former exclusivly Euro servers), and a Base on every server too. I also have toons in other peoples Super Groups, I can not think of anyone having difficulty paying Base Rent? Due to my duties in the US Army there are times I can not log in for a month or more, and still I do not lack for the ability to pay base upkeep even on my "Dusty Servers"; not to mention I do not think that non-VIP Toons will be able to create a Base (or perhaps I am confusing them with the 'Guest Accounts'?).
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Originally Posted by Whipster
To make it really adventagous for those staying that have held on for along time (in my case over 5.5 yrs) I think you should to take a lesson from the only other online super hero game, give the "VIP" players unlimited free access to new powers archtypes, new game areas and maybe free rent on bases. Things like that would have a lasting effect in keeping long term players like myself ... who, although I love COH, am on the fence whether I stay, or not.
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Duty, it is the most sublime word in the English language, you can never do more, you should never wish to do less.
I've not played the other superheroes game, but have played a certain fantasy mmo based on a TSR role-playing game. When it went to free to play, ViP members received monthly points for their store, had full access to all new content, lost nothing in regards to items and unlockables, and the monthly fee remained the same. What cost them a large amount of player base was the fact that you could purchase those unlocks from the store. Many felt that it was a form of cheating and gave new f2p members the ability to sidestep the process of earning rewards. In CoH Freeom it would be comperable to getting accolades, epic ATs, etc. by just paying out a buttload of money for points and then purchasing the content. Things here may be different, will just have to wait and see.
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So far, of the things you listed for this game, none of that can currently be purchased. You can purchase the ability to play the epics, for example, but you still have to qualify through game play to actually make one, just like paying customers. You can purchase access to First Ward, but all that does is open the door. There is no in-game advantage or disadvantage to being able to go or not.|
Originally Posted by Sabertalon
I've not played the other superheroes game, but have played a certain fantasy mmo based on a TSR role-playing game. When it went to free to play, ViP members received monthly points for their store, had full access to all new content, lost nothing in regards to items and unlockables, and the monthly fee remained the same. What cost them a large amount of player base was the fact that you could purchase those unlocks from the store. Many felt that it was a form of cheating and gave new f2p members the ability to sidestep the process of earning rewards. In CoH Freeom it would be comperable to getting accolades, epic ATs, etc. by just paying out a buttload of money for points and then purchasing the content. Things here may be different, will just have to wait and see.
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Temp Powers are a little more in the gray area, but the game has had that issue since Vet Rewards were introduced, so going to a market system isn't really altering the current state aside from accelerating when you can gain certain things, instead of waiting for the correct vet badge to be awarded. They are fringe benefits, and as long as items in the market stay on the fringe, that makes the most people happy. The folks that feel that these things are necessary can get them when they want, and those that find them optional aren't affected by those that spent their money on it. It's a tough balance, but I think the Devs and the Marketing team can pull it off satisfactorily.
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
So far, of the things you listed for this game, none of that can currently be purchased. You can purchase the ability to play the epics, for example, but you still have to qualify through game play to actually make one, just like paying customers. You can purchase access to First Ward, but all that does is open the door. There is no in-game advantage or disadvantage to being able to go or not.
Temp Powers are a little more in the gray area, but the game has had that issue since Vet Rewards were introduced, so going to a market system isn't really altering the current state aside from accelerating when you can gain certain things, instead of waiting for the correct vet badge to be awarded. They are fringe benefits, and as long as items in the market stay on the fringe, that makes the most people happy. The folks that feel that these things are necessary can get them when they want, and those that find them optional aren't affected by those that spent their money on it. It's a tough balance, but I think the Devs and the Marketing team can pull it off satisfactorily. |
From what you've stated, it would seem that the devs are making a strong attempt at ensuring the satisfaction of both sides of the issue. Thats always a good thing.
Now, you spend extra $$ for new goodies when they appear.
Soon, you will spend $$ for Paragon Points, and then spend THEM on new goodies when they appear. In the interim, Paragon Studios will be paying you a small refund of your monthly sub, in Paragon Points... so while your spending habits will not have changed, in the long term you will pay a bit less in actual, you know, money.
I can see the argument of your spending habits CHANGING, however....
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