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I actually just started up a Shield/Ice, myself, so I say go that way!
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
Maybe you should post the build instead of the chunk so people without Mids can look at it.
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-
Invuln is tougher, and with mitigation from Ice will be very tough indeed. But Shield is plenty tough and will do lots more damage. If you are pining for a Brute, I'd say that tips it toward Shield.
Bonus: look through the shield customizations, there's a lot you can do to get a look you like. Juts off the top of my head, you could put the snowflake pattern on a regular shield of various shapes, or use the Ice elemental shield.
If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog
Both are great picks really.
SD is easier to softcap (Positional) has an AoE attack and a damage boosting power. On top of that Grant Cover will make you beloved by nearby teammates. Always remember though that Deflection isn't just Melee defense, it also houses your S/L Resistance. If you can spare the slots, tossing in some res IOs there would help your survivability out.
Inv is also softcappab;e (S/L/E/N/F/C) but it's much harder. It would be more practical to aim for just S/L/E/N. You can hardcap S/L resistance if you take tough and your other non-psi resistances aren't bad either. Not outstanding, but not bad. All in all a well built Inv is very, VERY hard to kill.
Here is the shield build.
Soft capped M/R/A.
35% S/L res
127% rech
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.942
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Leviathan Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Deflection
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 1: Frozen Fists
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
(3) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(5) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(5) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 2: Battle Agility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 4: True Grit
(A) Resist Damage IO
(37) Resist Damage IO
(37) Healing IO
(37) Healing IO
Level 6: Active Defense
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 8: Against All Odds
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 10: Ice Sword
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(11) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
(11) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(13) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 12: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 16: Phalanx Fighting
(A) Defense Buff IO
(17) Defense Buff IO
(17) Defense Buff IO
Level 18: Frost
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(19) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(19) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(25) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(34) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
Level 20: Build Up
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(21) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(21) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
Level 22: Ice Patch
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 24: Boxing
(A) Empty
Level 26: Shield Charge
(A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
(27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(27) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 28: Freezing Touch
(A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(31) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(31) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(31) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
Level 30: Tough
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(34) Resist Damage IO
Level 32: Weave
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 35: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(36) Recharge Reduction IO
(36) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 38: Frozen Aura
(A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
(39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage
Level 41: School of Sharks
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(42) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(43) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
(43) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 44: Arctic Breath
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(45) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(45) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(45) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
(46) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(46) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
Level 47: Bile Spray
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(48) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(50) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
Level 49: Super Speed
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Empty
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
(A) Empty
Level 2: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery
(40) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(40) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
Level 2: Hurdle
(A) Empty
Level 2: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO
(43) Endurance Modification IO
(46) Endurance Modification IO
(50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
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Ive seen a Shield Defence / Super Strength tanker in action and that was a little beast. The damage output was nothing short of extreme, and his resistances gave my Invul / SS a run for his money. Between rage and against all odds, he was far outstripping me in damage, and my Invul / SS hits hard when rage is going.
I do think that Invul / gives you one benefit in as much as the smashing and lethal elements are huge, so softcapping them all the way to 45% while doable is ultimately to my mind dubious, because if you can find a way to tie in some additional regeneration into the build, you can take the damage anyway as you have 90% capped s/l resistance, and what damage you do take you can heal through anyway. Besides you always should carry a few lucks IMO. ;-)
as the other resistances in Invul are a bit on the low side, getting more defence for them is probably a more worthwhile pursuit. Im in a minority more than likely for my thinking that softcapping s/l is not mandatory on an invul tank. So perhaps not best to listen to me just yet till I get more proof.
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I found that you can color Ice Armor using custom colors so that it's nearly invisible. I changed mine to be dark blue and it doesn't look bulky at all -- you can barely see it.
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Originally Posted by Madamme Mayhem
SO a while ago i posted a build for an ice/ice/leviathan tanker and then i kinda changed my mind.....i like ice armour i just hate how it looks. Way to bulky etc.
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SO a while ago i posted a build for an ice/ice/leviathan tanker and then i kinda changed my mind.....i like ice armour i just hate how it looks. Way to bulky etc. So now i am torn between invul/ice/levi and shield/ice/levi.
Here is the Shield/ice/levi build...
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And here is the invul/ice/levi.
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I have never played a tanker with either of these power sets before so i am not sure what fall backs they have etc.
My main concern with Invul is the amount of toggles it uses in comparison to shield, but then i am capped S/L def and res so i guess it is worth it.
The reason i chose shield was for 'shield charge' and 'all against one' which helps up the dmg quota. Ideally id love this to be a brute but no ice =/.
I am also not sure which is better to have S/L capped or M/R/A capped.
So ye, advice, tips etc.
Thank you.
P.S. invul/shield/ice/levi are the power options, maybe WP if someone can back it up with some good facts. So please dont suggest other power sets because its pointless.