Curious with Regen...


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So currently leveling up my new DB/Regen and I got to thinking...

Regen, well, it hasn't felt as tough as some of the other combos. Mind you, I havent really IOed it out yet, but it got me to thinking...is 30% Defense going to be enough defense combined with the Regen and Click Heals to have it feel as tough as some of the other combos?

INV and WP? With IOs these two sets feel pretty comparable (imo anyways) in survivability. Will Regen match these two?


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It should be better than WP against a small number of enemies, but that wouldn't be my main concern. With most of your survivability dependent on clicky powers, I would imagine redraw and combo execution issues would arise, and seeing as you're used to WP this could get frustrating after a while.


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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
It should be better than WP against a small number of enemies, but that wouldn't be my main concern. With most of your survivability dependent on clicky powers, I would imagine redraw and combo execution issues would arise, and seeing as you're used to WP this could get frustrating after a while.
I can get used to the clickie powers, I've run Regen before (both times with weapon sets) and other defense sets with a few clickies to cause redraw.

But like I said, it's been awhile since I ran the regens, and they never had 30% defense to back them up.


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As long as both sets are equally IOed out, I think it's down to how well the player uses the click powers.


 

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Originally Posted by Amy_Amp View Post
As long as both sets are equally IOed out, I think it's down to how well the player uses the click powers.
Well, if that's the case, I'll feel more confident about my build.

Right now, my DB/WP is sitting at softcapped for S/L/E/N, a whole lot of HP (2202), and 48-50 HP a second regen with one target in range (plus the resists WP gives).

If all things being equal as long as I use my click powers well, I'll feel better about it all.

That said, I wouldn't mind a Purple Heal IO set that grants +3% Defense in the 6th slot for even more defense >_>


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My most recent regen is Elec/Regen, constructed to have about 35% melee defense as this was before I became fully converted to s/l for scrappers. I'd say it's pretty tough compared to the average scrapper you see on pugs, but does it compare to my softcapped DB/Inv? Not even close. Of course, the latter has a much better build, too. The regen was even squishier before I got tier 3 spiritual but now it is again pretty tolerable, usually with at least two clickable countermeasures on tap whenever anything is needed.

I'd be surprised if your DB/Regen ended up "as strong" as your DB/WP but I also imagine it should be plenty fun anyway, and it should be fine for whatever content. There's something to be said for having more to do than just attack. I haven't even unlocked any post-alpha slots on my regen, though, and it is conceivable that destiny, especially barrier, would have a bigger impact on a regen than any destiny would have on an already-solid WP.


 

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Regen definitely does better when you have Tough and some decent defenses going. Before Tough, I did have issues where some mobs were hitting me enough (and hard enough) to drop me before I had time to respond with a heal (and for the heal to activate). Actually had issues with this in Croatoa with the Tuatha: they can hit pretty hard.

Once I had Tough, that was alleviated, and more defense on top of that helped. You do want to look out for defense debuffs, of course. I've been debating my wisdom in grabbing more Regen from the APP, rather than a power line with a hold, since a lot of mobs have defense debuffers that help to drop fast (Arachnos Tarantulas are nasty for this). Using MoG wisely ahead of time can also help if you are taking aggro for a team.


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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
My most recent regen is Elec/Regen, constructed to have about 35% melee defense as this was before I became fully converted to s/l for scrappers. I'd say it's pretty tough compared to the average scrapper you see on pugs, but does it compare to my softcapped DB/Inv? Not even close. Of course, the latter has a much better build, too. The regen was even squishier before I got tier 3 spiritual but now it is again pretty tolerable, usually with at least two clickable countermeasures on tap whenever anything is needed.

I'd be surprised if your DB/Regen ended up "as strong" as your DB/WP but I also imagine it should be plenty fun anyway, and it should be fine for whatever content. There's something to be said for having more to do than just attack. I haven't even unlocked any post-alpha slots on my regen, though, and it is conceivable that destiny, especially barrier, would have a bigger impact on a regen than any destiny would have on an already-solid WP.
Well, I do have Tough planned to be used on my Regen.

But yes, my DB/WP is solid, but I'd for sure prefere it if it had a clickie heal over straight toggles, as I like to have that one defense power (outside of a tier 9) as I find it makes playing a melee type more fun (why I prefere Stalker WP over Scrapper WP).


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