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Originally Posted by BigBoss Eyepatch
Hey all, finally have made my first brute, nearly 8 months after joining the game. I have gone for a Dual Blades / Willpower.
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Originally Posted by BigBoss Eyepatch
Now I don't know much about brutes, or even the dual blades set. So thought I would ask them that do. My first query about a brute is more of a general one, what is the resistance cap on a brute? I'm going to assume it must be pretty high though.
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Here is an overview of Resistance caps, and other assorted information.
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Limits
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Originally Posted by BigBoss Eyepatch
Also one other thing, if anybody here has rolled a dual blades / willpower before and has a sample mids build they'd be willing to share with me, I would certainly be grateful to have a look at it.
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Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
Welcome to the fury-game.
90% is the resistance cap for Brutes, the same as Tankers. Here is an overview of Resistance caps, and other assorted information. http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Limits I don't have a DB/WP build to post, but if you post one using sets that you have a decent budget for, I can give some help tweaking the build. |
Will probably have to do that later. at the mo am in work, but, with regards to sets, I'd probably have to work up to them as if I pooled all my characters money together, it wouldn't even come close to 900 million. So will probbaly have to earn sets via drops, tips, merits etc.
One other question just thought of, from a brute perspective, are there any powers that could be considered skippable in willpower, or delayed till later?
You want them all, pretty much, aside from Resurgance and your T9. Both of those can be put off as late as you want, or not taken at all.
If you're looking to grab some early power pools (for Stealth/TPing TFs and such), you can delay fast healing until the 20's, as while nice it isn't going be a drastic hindrance.
The rez is considered skippable by many. The T9 is considered skippable by some (I wouldn't recommend it).
I might be going a bit too far, but I'm wondering if you're asking about skippable powers because you might think you need everything in DB, so here's my advice: don't buy into the idea that DB is tight. You don't need all the combos. Heck, highend builds focused on damage don't even use the combos.
The bread and butter combo is, IMHO, Attack Vitals. Blinding Feint -> Attack Vitals can be enough to get you through your whole career. I've played multiple DB characters to 50, and then ran through the endgame for hundreds of hours, soloing AVs or TFs using nothing but that (and before 26, I don't bother with combos). Add a Power Slice after Attack Vitals before you have enough recharge to run without it. It requires low recharge for the amount of damage it does, and the DoT is essentially free damage as far as endurance costs go.
Some people like to add Sweep for some AoE goodness. Chaining Attack Vitals and Sweep is more or less gapless as soon as you get both combos, which is certainly a plus.
Empower is in my opinion next to useless on a brute. Because of Fury, you're at a high damage enhancement value already, and the buff Empower gives is tiny compared to that.
As for Weaken, I can't really see such a small debuff being objectively useful, but some people like it.
Nihilli is exactly right. Attack vitals and sweep are the only two combo's you really want. Empower can be pretty nice in the low levels though.
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@Caucasiafro
Even though the resistance cap is 90% on Brutes, you will almost never hit that cap. The main reason is that Brute armor sets are equivalent to Scrapper values. The other reason is that hardly anyone plays a resistance-buffing powerset. In most cases, Tankers are better for soaking damage and Scrappers are better for dealing damage. Brutes are okay at both, but don't expect to be the best at both at the same time.
You can take a look at this build. It's soft capped to S/L and mostly softcapped to E/N. Good regen, never going to run out of endurance. Chose Body mastery 'cause I didn't have the slots to slot up an AoE attack.
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.94
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 50 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Power Slice -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(11), Numna-Heal/Rchg(11), Aegis-ResDam(13), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(50), Aegis-Psi/Status(50)
Level 2: Ablating Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Achilles-ResDeb%(9)
Level 4: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(43), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(45)
Level 6: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(13), Numna-Heal/Rchg(45)
Level 8: Blinding Feint -- KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(17), Rec'dRet-ToHit(17), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(23)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(40), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 18: Vengeful Slice -- KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(A), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(42), P'Shift-EndMod(43)
Level 22: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), RctvArm-ResDam(25), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(27)
Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(34), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31), LkGmblr-Def(31)
Level 32: One Thousand Cuts -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(33), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(34), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(36), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(37), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(37), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(37), Mocking-Rchg(39)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- Heal-I(A), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 47: Strength of Will -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 49: Superior Conditioning -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 50: Nerve Radial Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(46), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Numna-Heal(46), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(48), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(48)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
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Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
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Agreed. I skip the rez, I never skip SoW.|
Originally Posted by Nihilii
The rez is considered skippable by many. The T9 is considered skippable by some (I wouldn't recommend it).
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Originally Posted by Nihilii
I might be going a bit too far, but I'm wondering if you're asking about skippable powers because you might think you need everything in DB, so here's my advice: don't buy into the idea that DB is tight. You don't need all the combos. Heck, highend builds focused on damage don't even use the combos.
The bread and butter combo is, IMHO, Attack Vitals. Blinding Feint -> Attack Vitals can be enough to get you through your whole career. I've played multiple DB characters to 50, and then ran through the endgame for hundreds of hours, soloing AVs or TFs using nothing but that (and before 26, I don't bother with combos). Add a Power Slice after Attack Vitals before you have enough recharge to run without it. It requires low recharge for the amount of damage it does, and the DoT is essentially free damage as far as endurance costs go. Some people like to add Sweep for some AoE goodness. Chaining Attack Vitals and Sweep is more or less gapless as soon as you get both combos, which is certainly a plus. Empower is in my opinion next to useless on a brute. Because of Fury, you're at a high damage enhancement value already, and the buff Empower gives is tiny compared to that. As for Weaken, I can't really see such a small debuff being objectively useful, but some people like it. |
I quoted this for the OP because if they are going to listen to someone on DB, this is one of the people they should be listening to.
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Originally Posted by Syntax42
Even though the resistance cap is 90% on Brutes, you will almost never hit that cap.
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Originally Posted by Syntax42
The main reason is that Brute armor sets are equivalent to Scrapper values.
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Originally Posted by Syntax42
The other reason is that hardly anyone plays a resistance-buffing powerset.
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Originally Posted by Syntax42
In most cases, Tankers are better for soaking damage and Scrappers are better for dealing damage. Brutes are okay at both, but don't expect to be the best at both at the same time.
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This. I don't know much about tanks (so far), but there are seriously hardy brutes and there are seriously deadly brutes, and then there are the ones that are both.|
Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
I think you underestimate the full potential of what a Brute is capable of.
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Sort of like scraps (and I imagine tanks); once the build prices hit the "ya I'm slotted out with set bonues and whatnot" mark, the lines get pretty blury. Incarnate powers doubly so.
Hey all, finally have made my first brute, nearly 8 months after joining the game. I have gone for a Dual Blades / Willpower.
Now I don't know much about brutes, or even the dual blades set. So thought I would ask them that do. My first query about a brute is more of a general one, what is the resistance cap on a brute? I'm going to assume it must be pretty high though.
Also one other thing, if anybody here has rolled a dual blades / willpower before and has a sample mids build they'd be willing to share with me, I would certainly be grateful to have a look at it.
Thanks.