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Kinda. Thermal and Pain Dom are the only Corruptor secondaries with a strong non-enemy dependent ally heal (o2 is weaker than Soothe/Caut). It doesn't require a great deal of slots to make good and its an immensely useful power. I'd try and find room for it if you can. The +res shields reducing damage and the heal to replenish health lost is a good combo. |
Originally Posted by War-Nugget
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1) Will I be frowned upon if I do not take cauterize? I know its a fairly nifty heal, but those slots could be spent elsewhere (Such as picking up Fire Breath for more cone/AoE action) |
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Originally Posted by War-Nugget
2) Is Musculature worth taking over Spiritual? Reasoning behind this is more damage is the enemy being defeated quicker, and more recharge is somewhat unneeded when the build is fully decked out.
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Musculature...honestly, I wouldn't bother. You can get better benefits from the other Alphas.
Build One Feedback:
Haha, wow. That looks awfully familiar
One thing I would recommend which I've since changed in my build is dropping the second end rdx from Acrobatics. What I did was move it to N.Bomb because it'd save me far more endurance. With your build, what would concern me is the end use from your AoEs, unless you go Cardiac. I think going Spiritual or Musculature with this build would result in pretty bad endurance issues. Other than that, I'd recommend putting a Stealth proc in Sprint or either of your travel powers. You don't need the -KB IOs with Acrobatics.
Build Two Feedback:
This one is also pretty good, but I'd change more about it. Warmth is definitely underslotted. While its not a massive heal, it is your only way to heal yourself and several others at a time. I'd put the Apocs in Blaze since its your best attack. Since Thermal is so busy, it's best to maximize your most powerful attack for when you throw it in the mix.
I'd swap the Forge and Aim slotting. Forge is more important to have good enhancement values on than Aim, since Aim recharges reasonably fast with global recharge but you want to throw out as much Forge as possible.
That said, I wouldn't go with the full Gaussians set for either power. It gives great positional defense, but you're going for s/l so you're only really getting 1.25% defense for 6 slots. Not a good deal. You'd be better off going with Rectified Reticles to make up the defense. Also only needs 2 slots and gives more s/l defense than the Gaussians.
Again, I'd worry about the endurance use of the AoEs without Cardiac. You can also drop the HO from CJ, its not needed to softcap you and those are pretty pricey. You'd be better off leaving CJ with just the LotG 7.5 and using the slot elsewhere.
So in general, I prefer the first build. Move the shiny stuff to the first build and make a few tweaks, then go with that, heh. Hope that helps
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Looking at them builds I would go Cardiac. Ya bound to run out of end sometime.
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Depending on how you go, you can maximize your damage resistance in the shields, too, with cardiac.
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Originally Posted by New Dawn
Looking at them builds I would go Cardiac. Ya bound to run out of end sometime.
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Technically it is maximizing them, but if they're already ED slotted from your enhancements, going Cardiac will only add a few % of resist which really isn't a big deal.
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Originally Posted by Psylenz
Depending on how you go, you can maximize your damage resistance in the shields, too, with cardiac.
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Yeah I'll go Cardiac, figure Endurance + Range is a good deal. Resistance I'm "Meh" on, being that I did ED cap the shields and such in both builds.
Don't know what the similarity is on the first build, or that you had a Rad/Therm o.O Thanks for input however, and glad you liked it! Seems frankenslotting is the way to be!
Okay, Cardiac seems the best way to go .. plus extra range is good.
I'll go with the first build, maybe switch around stuff as you have said to do.
I usually don't slot purples into toons, but F/T looks like purples might make it shine by having the debuffs up quite abit quicker!
Switching Blaze and Fire Blast's sets with eachother doesn't change much. But when teaming, I suppose thermal is quite busy with the shielding every 4 minutes and the 2 debuffs every 40 and a Blaze fired off would do more damage than a Fire Blast .. although during an AV fight I guess I could go Melt>Exhaust>Blaze>FB>Blaze and toss out Rain and Fireball if needed.
Rebuild with the new ideas and such, being ditch the -KB and move a slot from a toggle to an attack. Although i do already have both the AoEs 6 slotted, but that Recharge IO can be switched for Endurance IO save moar endurance.
Shiny stuff will come later on of course, probably quicker being that this will be my focus toon for the next while. Plus, because my other 50s are mostly "retired" I won't be spending any influence on them!
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Going with first build, with Cardiac 'Core-line' tiers. Moved slot from Acrobatics to Fire Blast and added a Recharge IO there, switched the Recharge IOs in Fire Ball and Rain of Fire to Endurance IOs. +Stealth will go into sprint when I obtain one.
SS and SJ will probably just have a Run and Jump IO in them.
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Originally Posted by Wavicle
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
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Haha, you really don't see the similarities? Some stuff is moved around, but damn. Anyway, I don't mind if you used my build to help you with yours, that's what I posted it for. If you didn't, well, that's one hell of a coincidence
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Insane, then again there doesn't seem to be THAT many ways to softcap a /thermal and get good recharge.
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Originally Posted by Wavicle
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
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Uh huh.
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My Fire/Thermal is squishy as hell without some def. I tend to find mobs close in so fast I am not sure if its melee def I need to worry about. Ultimately I went with kill everything quick. I got all the attacks, except the snipe and I powersink after the nuke so thats alright.
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Let me get this straight... You managed to, while needing build advice, come up with what amounts to the cheap designer knockoff of the build used by an extremely experienced corrupter player (whose guides on every corr support set are well-known), all on your lonesome?
Who are you, Rain Man?
Somehow, I don't buy it. Especially not when that build would be one of the first anyone would find if they searched for a therm guide. Urinating on someone else's work and calling it yours doesn't make it your own, no matter how many episodes of Wild Kingdom you've seen. It just makes a person look like they were raised by chimps.
That said, if you had to steal someone's work, at least you showed enough good judgement to rip off an expert. points for that.
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o.O 5-slotting heals with DWounds (like on a pain), 4 slotting Shields with Reactives (like on an inv), taking defensive shields and slotting with defense sets and LotG+Rech (like on any character you're trying to soft-cap) is all "stealing" because someone else did it before you? Same with frankenslotting for Accuracy, Recharge, Endurance, Debuffs in a power that has little accuracy and chances are needs all of them?
/em shrug
If my honesty isn't good enough for you, so be it.
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Originally Posted by Wavicle
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
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I'm slightly late to the party... but I can vouch for Nugget here, I play with the guy pretty much every day. He's not the kind of person to do that sort of crap.
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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^Professional Katana/regen build thread
It's not so much the individual set choices which made me wonder, since as you say there's not a lot of different ways you can go with it to get high recharge and softcapped s/l.
What raised my eyebrow was how almost every power selection was at the same level as mine (the only stuff moved around being some of the singleslotted powers), the order of the frankenslotted stuff being identical (Forge), the Acrobatics slotting being identical to my old build (I've since dropped the second end rdx) so it looks a whole lot like my build just transposed to Fire/ with a few minor changes made.
As I said, I seriously don't mind people using my builds as templates or for ideas or whatever, that's why I post them in the guides. What I object to is my builds being presented as someone elses. If that's not the case here, alright, whatever. I'm not going to belabor this point any more.
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Originally Posted by Marut
Who are you, Rain Man?
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builds really aren't rocket science
looking at the OPs build, there's not a lot that isn't common sense
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