Incarnate loot for MMs and non DDs
Most certainly not broken. I have gotten many many very rares on my Rad/Elec defender. Most of them (7?) I actually got *before* I level-shifted. Once I level-shifted, I started focusing more on dealing damage, and had a very long streak of Uncommons.
If it is in fact performance based, I do not believe damage is a factor, as I have since gone back to debuffing and using my seldom-used powers, even when they weren't necessary, and have started getting Rares & Very Rares again.
-Proud leader of Captain Planet's Magical Friends
I find it difficult to believe they would blindly implement a system that 'screws' a significant portion of the players - after this EXACT issue was addressed with regard to the Praetorian zone events.
Paragon City Search And Rescue
The Mentor Project
well in the last 3 days ive run 20+ BAF runs and gotten nothing but ONE common piece im fighting with my pets and debuffing like spam debuffs why am i not getting anything
Random is random.
Statistically speaking, that's a very small sample size.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
yeah it just seems like nothing tho, somthing has to be off


Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters
Lambda/BAF Reward Tables
Incarnate rewards based on participation?
List of an Annoyed Mastermind
I'm sure there are others that I have missed. There are also several Issue 20 open beta feedback threads on the subject and the developers have yet to comment on any of them to my knowledge.
A couple players were told during testing that the tables are random, not participation based. However there is mounting evidence to the contrary.


Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters
well ok ty THEY NEED TO FIX IT BAD man this is becomeing L2
I know right? Next thing ya know they gonna be dupin rares and jerk hacking.
I find it difficult to believe they would blindly implement a system that 'screws' a significant portion of the players - after this EXACT issue was addressed with regard to the Praetorian zone events.
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I've run one trial with my MM and gotten a threads/inspirations only loot table. I stopped running them and switched to my Fortunata. My Scrapper who ran Trials pretty much non-stop for a week never once got an empty table like that.

ty so im not crazy...thanks so much for your posts guys. im trying out my empith def see what the damamge is there
it would make me feel better if theyd atleast comment on the issue
Apparently random isn't as random as we've been led to believe.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
I figured something out with an oversight from the development team. Mister Minds and defenders get SCREWED on the loot tree because the pets/henchmen and healing,debuffing and buffing dont count as praticipation. it is soo hardd to me to get my incarnate skills cause i get a tiny amout of drops compared to everyone else FIX IT. its not right.