Fourth ( Attached ) Power Tray


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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
I still find the addition of this questionable. You want to link more trays to the larger one because you have to move them every time you switch screens? Well, you'd have to do that anyway even if they were linked. That you have to move some individual trays instead is, like, 5 seconds of your time which isn't that much effort.

Please describe to me how not having your trays attached forces so much more effort that the devs should be using *their* efforts to help you.
Even if he'd have to move his one big attached multi-tray GUI that would just be ONE thing to move. With lots of unattached trays you have to waste the time moving and readjusting each one. The time savings of being able to have many attached trays together should be obvious to anyone.

And as to the Devs "using their efforts" to help with this as I just stated in my last post the Devs already "used" some effort some years ago to give us 3 attached trays instead of the original 2. If they had done it right the first time (by letting us attach up to all nine trays together) then this problem would have been avoided years ago.


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
Even if he'd have to move his one big attached multi-tray GUI that would just be ONE thing to move. With lots of unattached trays you have to waste the time moving and readjusting each one. The time savings of being able to have many attached trays together should be obvious to anyone.
No arguing it'd save time, but how much? How many people will have 9 trays on the screen to move? How often will they switch screen resolutions after each adjustment?

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And as to the Devs "using their efforts" to help with this as I just stated in my last post the Devs already "used" some effort some years ago to give us 3 attached trays instead of the original 2. If they had done it right the first time (by letting us attach up to all nine trays together) then this problem would have been avoided years ago.
Noted, but then there'd have been the whole 'I can't see crap on my screen because half of it is taken up by my fat 9 layer tray!' issue that they also solved when they gave you the option of shaping the unattached trays as extra windows. So they kind of broke even on the effort depart, I'd say


 

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why would I switch screen resolutions? am I buying an new monitor every day?
You've never used the same account on two or more computers with different screen resolution? Your UI gets crushed, shuffled and laughed at.

For whatever strange reason, that's stored server-side. Play the game on your tiny laptop screen and the whole UI gets changed. Return to your big desktop, it's now using your screwy laptop arrangement.


 

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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
No arguing it'd save time, but how much? How many people will have 9 trays on the screen to move? How often will they switch screen resolutions after each adjustment?
I typically have 8 trays spread around on my screen. I don't personally shift them around too often, but I realize it could be a significant QoL issue for some people. That in and of itself is enough of a justification to suggest this idea as a QoL improvement. And for the record I'd love to have the OPTION of having 4 or 5 attached trays instead of just 3 at this point.

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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
Noted, but then there'd have been the whole 'I can't see crap on my screen because half of it is taken up by my fat 9 layer tray!' issue that they also solved when they gave you the option of shaping the unattached trays as extra windows. So they kind of broke even on the effort depart, I'd say
Strawman much? No one ever said anyone wanted 9 attached trays without the OPTION to have 8, 5 or any number in-between. That's what my phrase "up to nine" trays meant. Right now we have the OPTION to have 2 or 3 attached trays. Would it actually have been that much harder for the Devs to have given us the OPTION to also have 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 attached trays if we wanted back when they shortsightedly worked on increasing the original number only from 2 to 3? Based on my nearly 20 years of software engineering experience I feel very confident in saying "no" that question. *shrugs*


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
Strawman much? No one ever said anyone wanted 9 attached trays without the OPTION to have 8, 5 or any number in-between. That's what my phrase "up to nine" trays meant. Right now we have the OPTION to have 2 or 3 attached trays. Would it actually have been that much harder for the Devs to have given us the OPTION to also have 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 attached trays if we wanted back when they shortsightedly worked on increasing the original number only from 2 to 3? Based on my nearly 20 years of software engineering experience I feel very confident in saying "no" that question. *shrugs*
Not a strawman. You just misunderstand what I'm saying:

-Players only have 2 rows of slots and ask for the capability to add up to 9.

-Devs increase the option so you can have all the rows by pressing the ^ button on the tray.

-Now players can have many stacked trays but complain that they need 5+ rows but with the inspiration tray open, obstructs too much of their screen.

-Now devs have to go back in and make a means to have *detached* trays with the the option of varying tray styles.

The way they have it now, you can have your 5+ rows, you just have to stack them manually since they're separate and of varying shape. So if they have to go back and add in functionality to have 4+ rows on the main tray, they would break even on work if they had done just that from the beginning.

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I typically have 8 trays spread around on my screen. I don't personally shift them around too often, but I realize it could be a significant QoL issue for some people. That in and of itself is enough of a justification to suggest this idea as a QoL improvement. And for the record I'd love to have the OPTION of having 4 or 5 attached trays instead of just 3 at this point.
Then this gets to a far deeper issue that really isn't resolved by having 4+ attached trays. What you want is the ability to keep your tray size/position saved with screen resolution. This would resolve your issue with having to move your 8 trays *AND* the chat window, HP bars, nav, etc. Would having +4 attached trays do that for you? Most likely not.


 

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I'll /sign this.


I'd also like to see trays that have less than all 10 slots in a tray...just a very tiny window/tray that you can customize how many slots you want..2, 4, etc...


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Be careful what you wish for. The person who ruined the Classic Team window is probably who will redesign the power tray.