Super Reflexes takes a while to become tough enough to stay alive solo. Willpower is decent right away, and has enough regeneration to tank well at higher levels. Stacking defense on Willpower will likely result in a character that can take more of a beating than Super Reflexes can. In addition, Willpower will heal back the damage you do to yourself by using Energy Transfer, if you choose to take it.
The only advantage Super Reflexes has is capped defense debuff resistance.
ET really hurts your HP... Except on a WP. I'd go WP.
That said, EM/SR (much like any brute) isn't unplayable, if you want to try something new.
Find ways to use your time.
I do my chatting, eating, drinking, etc while waiting for ET and TF to execute.
Also I try to target my next victim during that time. Then, when it finally does go off, I can just hit the follow button and and my next attack button and then zoomwham.
One nice thing is that if you're using TF is seems as if your travel power doesn't get suppressed. It does of course, but the suppression seems to end before the attack does.
Another nice thing is that you can start ET or TF and then click a glowie to have the glowie timer going while the ET or TF attack animation is running. Depending on the glowie timer, it can look as if you never stopped to click it at all (to you rteam mates who don't see the glowie timer bar.
Thank you for your replies. I have to admit that I was a bit worried about ET taking my health and forgot how well WP would help mitigate that! I also plan on supplementing my def and res w/ tough and weave. So it does look like WP is one of the best secondaries out there.
As a side note, when did Barrage end up doing more damage than energy punch?
Looking at it from a different angle than everyone else:
/SR will get you high defenses (easily softcapped) but your only resistance will come from Tough (if you take it) and the scaling resists. And you'll get no +Regen outside of Health (which /WP will also get).
/WP will get you some +hp and Res(all) out of a single autopower, and a good chunk of S/L resist to stack with Tough. Heightened senses, Weave and Combat Jumping gets you good F/C/E/N def, and you'll have all sorts of places to slot Kinetic Combat and Reactive Armor for S/L def. Plus, if you have them, you can put a Steadfast Res/Def and a Glad Armor +Def in the default slots of HPT and your godmode. You'll only have 50% def debuff resist, but most other sets have the same amount, and when it fails on you, you'll still have all that Resist and Regen to fall back on.
TL;DR: Different reason, same answer: go WP.
@Roderick
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Mids' shows only ~17% ddr
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You'll only have 50% def debuff resist, but most other sets have the same amount, and when it fails on you, you'll still have all that Resist and Regen to fall back on.
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I'll write the dissenting opinion:
SR is better vs things that like to stay at range (eg Praetorian Clockwork) and it avoids Recharge Slows in ways Willpower can't. And Quickness means your damage output is going to be better than Willpower, too. And the self damage from Energy Transfer is greatly overstated. I've run a Energy Melee Brute up to the high 40s and the self damage was never even a concern let alone a problem. Heck Stalkers spam that power with impunity, and look at their Hit Points.
Plus, SR's mitigation is consistent. Move away from the mobs with Willpower and it folds pretty quickly. No such limitation with SR.
Just thought I'd chime in with a few things SR offers over Willpower. People often just don't realize how much the set actually brings because it's so compact and efficient (just like the Golden Fox).
All that said, SR and WP are sister sets and both very good. SR just brings a lot of "intangibles" so people have a hard time realizing just how strong the set is, and often dismiss it too easily, especially when compared to the "sexy" sets like Shield and Willpower.
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You could be right: I was going by memory. However, the rest of what I posted still stands, and even if the DDR was 0, the defense would be better than not having anything to fall back on when your main formof protection fails - And /SR really has no backup plan.
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Mids' shows only ~17% ddr
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@Roderick
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If and only if you don't IO. EM is animation limited very quickly.| And Quickness means your damage output is going to be better than Willpower, too. |
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Basically, before IOs you won't regen anything if you truly spam ET and fight nonstop, and after it'll still nullify a significant chunk of your regeneration. Fact is one can kill himself by actually spamming ET if he doesn't have enough regen/heals, even without the mobs fighting back. I've done it in Mercy Island on a level 50 brute.
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SR has 95% defense debuff resistance when slotted properly, which means they can effectively ignore debuffs. However, to-hit buffs on the enemies affect sets like SR and SD more than other sets that include more than just defense for mitigation.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
You could be right: I was going by memory. However, the rest of what I posted still stands, and even if the DDR was 0, the defense would be better than not having anything to fall back on when your main formof protection fails - And /SR really has no backup plan.
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Hey all Brute masters out there. I usually play corruptors and am thinking about creating a brute I have an idea for, but am not sure if I should go em/wp or em/sr. I do tend a solo about 60% and team on tfs, trials the rest. I also have a good amount of inf saved up to invest for IOs, but honestly am not looking for a build guide, just fellow gamers opinions and thoughts concerning the different pairings. I have tried WP in the past and enjoyed it, but have always been interested in starting a SR toon. I do not farm, but would like to up the difficulty when I can. Thank you in advance for your time and effort.