Creepers and Rommy


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Do Creepers help Rommy more than they hurt him? Heard this on an ITF last night. I can see where it might be true if he does enough PBAOE buffing, but it doesn't feel right.

Anyone know the actual logic behind the claim, or even better, the numbers involved? Thanks!


 

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Rommy's Healer Fluffie will hit anything targetable in PBAoE range and use it to heal him, so I would assume that's where the logic comes from.

As to whether the benefits outweigh the disadvantages; harder to say.


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Yes, Carrion Creepers are very counter productive to the Rommy encounter.

I describe it to my teammates this way: For every vine summoned (which is usually a lot due to ambushes and the summoning nictus) Rommy gets a 300 (I can't recall exactly what it is off the top of my head) point heal every 5ish seconds. If the vines are not providing damage to counteract that (60ish DPS PER vine, yeah right ) then they are helping Rommy survive more than they are helping you take him down.

This is from a damage standpoint. Carrion Creepers can be used in the encounter (I like using it far from Rommy on ambushes) successfully, however the number of people I have personally encountered who understood this leads me to just tell people not to use the Creepers at all.


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Wow...Thanks for the heads up! lol



 

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60DPS is equal to 300 heal every 5, so at worst that's a wash. As you say, the aid in locking him down can still make them well worth it. Of course, explaining that during a TF can be tough.


 

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That is 60dps *PER* vine you need to overcome. If you have 10 vines giving him healing targets that's 600dps. I'm no expert about DPS, but I don't think 1 vine even comes close to 60 DPS. Not to mention if you are using them for a distraction they're not all going to be attacking Rommy.

Also I just remembered he has a Soul Drain type ability that those vines can fuel as well. I don't know if they can stand up to more than 1 hit, but it's something else to consider.


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it depends on the team, ive had 2 plant controller/doms on same team using creepers on rommy fight and we still had few issues because of the amount of debuff we had

the healer nictus has a target cap of 16, so even with a ton of creepers up, it cant hit all of them most likely, team of 8 is half of the target cap on it anyway


 

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You'd have to reduce that 300 heal per 5 seconds by the hit probability, too. Are creeper vines covered by Maneuvers?