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Lalow, what about Spiritual for the Alpha? Not only do you get everything up sooner (including an even *faster* LR), it gives you a boost to your Heal as well as being one of the few ways to reduce the recharge on the following Incarnate abilities?
All incarnate abilities are not affected by recharge bonuses, including Spiritual.


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All incarnate abilities are not affected by recharge bonuses, including Spiritual.
I heard that Alpha Slot enhancements DID affect the other slots. Is this demonstrably false? Musc doesn't boost damage, nor Nerve accuracy of the other Incarnate abilities?


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I heard that Alpha Slot enhancements DID affect the other slots. Is this demonstrably false? Musc doesn't boost damage, nor Nerve accuracy of the other Incarnate abilities?
The only Incarnate powers that currently can be buffed in anyway are Judgment and Lore with regards to all non-recharge bonuses. Musc will increase the damage both powers do, Nerva increases accuracy and etc. And of course currently only the Alpha Slot can buff the two powers, all other buffs are ignored.

The others, either the tech is too hard to work with (Interface) or are too powerful up front to allowed to be buffed (Destiny).

Check out this link for more info.


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That link is to a beta board. As such, I don't know if we can talk about it, and it is subject to change anyway. If it stays that way, though, musculature sounds muuuch better.

Edit: So much beta info has been flying around, I don't actually know what we can talk about and what can't :O


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Well when i20 releases then I will see what to do, but for now that is probably the hardest thing for me right now is to decide what Alpha to use... I mean they all have their +'s you know, but what would help maximize my stalker has always been the troubling question...


 

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The only Incarnate powers that currently can be buffed in anyway are Judgment and Lore with regards to all non-recharge bonuses. Musc will increase the damage both powers do, Nerva increases accuracy and etc. And of course currently only the Alpha Slot can buff the two powers, all other buffs are ignored.

The others, either the tech is too hard to work with (Interface) or are too powerful up front to allowed to be buffed (Destiny).

Check out this link for more info.
Yeah I read Black Scorpion's post and he said Nerve and Musc benefit Lore pets' damage and accuracy which is interesting because I think Nerve is probably the least useful alpha at the moment but if Nerve can help pet's accuracy (do they have very poor accuracy to begin with?), then it could be good.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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The only Incarnate powers that currently can be buffed in anyway are Judgment and Lore with regards to all non-recharge bonuses. Musc will increase the damage both powers do, Nerva increases accuracy and etc. And of course currently only the Alpha Slot can buff the two powers, all other buffs are ignored.

The others, either the tech is too hard to work with (Interface) or are too powerful up front to allowed to be buffed (Destiny).

Check out this link for more info.
*sigh*

I should expect this, but I never do, like Lucy with the the football.

If they say we can go 35 MPH, you can bet that they will hard code it so we can't accidentally do 36. Grrrr.

Here's a thought, devs. At LEAST let the effing incarnate ALPHA work on the other Incarnates without trying to control us so completely? (Truth be told, you ought to let Global buffs work too.) I mean when you can't even allow an Incarnate ability to work thoroughly, that's lame and sad. (And it's even stupider that the Alphas are handled inconsistently.)

Well, these are the people that brought us the Purple patch, the Hami nerf, and all the other convuluted way to keep the players (their paying customers) in line.

I *hope* I find that to get a very rare Incarnate ability takes a moronically huge effort (and long grind) because then I could junk the whole Incarnate system as nothing more than the same kind of mindless rat wheel where you do repetitive mission that are way too hard for just a tiny sliver of reward that doesn't even make you that much more powerful.

I mean, each of the Very Rare will have a moderate effect on a well designed build.

-Musculature will increase my Lightning Rod by about 14% (from 400 to 457)
-Nerve will increase LR's Acc from 179% to 212% (Likely way overkill)
-Spiritual will lower LR's recharge from 25.8 seconds to 23.4 seconds - only about two seconds difference
-Cardiac will decrease LR's cost from 11.4 end to 8.2 (However, with 3 slotted stam plus Numina/Miracle/PerfShifter Uniques, I don't imagine I *need* Endurance help.

I don't mind doing 2-3 weeks worth of casual gaming to get the Alpha - say 6-8 hours per week, for a total of 12-24 hours, but I better not have to crawl over broken glass backwards for such a moderate boost.

[Yes, the level shift is nice, but also a smallish boost. Avoiding the penalty for not having a slotted Incarnate when doing Incarnate trials is NOT a significant boost, as those penalties can easily be avoided if you decide the rest of the aspects aren't worth it by simply not doing those missions.]

At least treat the interactions of the Incarnate abilities with each other logically and consistently, allowing either ALL incarnates to synergize with each other or NONE (and for the price, it should be ALL.)


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You entire mini-rant non really needed, have you even tried using any of the powers besides Alpha before whining that we cant buff them to hell and back? Do you know how powerful some of those Destiny buffs are? Or how powerful Judgement is? And you expect them to allow us to buff them using whatever we want? Finally, in case you couldn't read, the only buffs that increase two of the slots are Alpha and only in regards to non-recharge attributes.

Hint: Barrier-Destiny is basically a team Moment of Glory for 10 seconds, and then steadily declining values as time goes by. Not to mention the ridiculousness that would be if we could cycle the Judgement nukes any faster then we already can by using any type of recharge bonuses.

Also whining about the purple patch but then saying that level shifts aren't very powerful is amusing. (Hint they make the 'new' trials very very easy once you get all the possible shifts up to date).

Edit: And you DO know that the devs that made the purple patch and 'nerfed' Hami are long gone right?


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As soon as I saw the word "whine" in your reply, I skipped it. Was there anything important in it?


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As soon as I saw the word "whine" in your reply, I skipped it. Was there anything important in it?
I'm sorry, is there anything else for bringing up ancient history about people that no longer work on this game? So I guess I know the answers to my questions.


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