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Really expensive, highly survivable BANE build

BeornAgain

By BeornAgain,
Posted on: 2011-03-14 13:15 in Soldiers of Arachnos

 

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Originally Posted by Jibikao View Post
Oh ok. I am just curious if you've tried comparing Wolf Soldier against other branch. I figure with proc damage, the fast shooting Wolf may not be too bad.
I bet a well-build wolf spider can do some serious AE damage if approached right. It would definetly be unique, I have yet to see a pure wolf around on Virtue. I might put one together later but note that I don't have play experience with them so not sure if it will come out the way you imagine (I think pummel is waaay too fun to skip!).

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Originally Posted by Linea_Alba View Post
post a copy of the Fortunata, too. I'd be interested to see it.
I'm currently tweaking the build as I have found that 85% psi resist isn't really all that useful. There aren't many mobs with "psy only" flagged attacks that I encounter (tarantula mistresses, npc forts, carnies, LB wardens and I think some boss lvl rikti mesmerists? sure I'm missing a few), and what hits me applies a -rech... which impacts my already iffy mind link recharge (I have about a 7 second window to click it, compared to about 18 seconds on my NW).

I'm thinking about switching over to the superior dual mode approach my NW utilizes, who doesn't have capped psi resist but performs way better vs hordes of psionic-heavy groups. The NW has two sets of toggles on the same build, one for "infiltration" that includes using mask presence for stealth and opening crits for one-shotting pesty sappers etc, the other toggle for "heavy combat", which replaces MP with combat jumping and retains pure positional softcaps (since the two run the same defensive values) while allowing better endurance management and granting 45.2% psi defense.

I'll post it when I'm finnished though.

 

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Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.92
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bane i19 updated: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Bane Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Bane Spider Training
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Bash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Bane Spider Armor Upgrade -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResDam(5), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(7), GA-3defTpProc(7), GA-ResDam(9)
Level 2: Combat Training: Defensive -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), Ksmt-Def/EndRdx(9), GftotA-Run+(11), GftotA-Def(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48)
Level 4: Wolf Spider Armor -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(13), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(15), Aegis-Psi/Status(43)
Level 6: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-Pcptn(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(17)
Level 8: Maneuvers -- GftotA-Run+(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(17), LkGmblr-Rchg+(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(19), EndRdx-I(21)
Level 10: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- GftotA-Run+(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(21), LkGmblr-Rchg+(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(23)
Level 12: Pulverize -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- SW-ResDam/Re TP(A)
Level 18: Shatter -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(27), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(29), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 20: Tactical Training: Leadership -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(31), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(31), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(33)
Level 22: Mental Training -- Run-I(A)
Level 24: Cloaking Device -- GftotA-Run+(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(33), LkGmblr-Rchg+(34), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(34)
Level 26: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(36)
Level 28: Tactical Training: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(36)
Level 30: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Knock%(A)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- Armgdn-Dmg(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(36), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 35: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(37), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(37), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 38: Weave -- GftotA-Run+(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40), EndRdx-I(40)
Level 41: Web Envelope -- GravAnch-Immob(A), GravAnch-Immob/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Shatter Armor -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Surveillance -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A)
Level 0: Marshal
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 50: Musculature Total Radial Revamp
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Level 1: Brawl -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A), Clrty-EndRdx(34), EndRdx-I(46)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(40), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(42)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(42), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(43), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(43)
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I work my build to focus on having alot of end recovery vs end usage. Also with defenses being high even past soft-cap! Better safe than sorry!

Damage I don't really care about as that will fall into play easily having two assaults and with i19 added Musculature Radial Paragon, for the extra damage and end recovery.

Tweak whatever you want I don't care...this is what build works for me and it is very solid!

Not cheap either but like you said you dont have a problem with that!

Also as a side note...I put that set on BRAWL because I find myself using that more than BOXING! If you plan to PvP then put it on BOXING! Just a small tidbit there!

Virtue: Streets Avenger (Main - Villain) - Lvl 50+3 Street Justice/Energy Aura Stalker (Agility Radial T4/ Degenerative Radial T4) - Fully IO'd

Global: @Black Marabuna

 

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IMO, you went WAAAAYYYY overbudget on defense. You're miles above the softcap, even with Cloak suppressed. Better safe than sorry may be true, but you're not really measurably safer than someone who opted for a more balanced build. IMO Acrobatics is a complete waste for a class with high defense, stealth and status protection. A bit more slotting toward making your targets dead faster will serve you better, both in terms of endurance recovery and safety. Plus blues drop an awful lot, at least when I play.

You did get me thinking that I was way overslotting Surveillance on my Bane Machine build, however. I rearranged the slots to pick up some more recharge, and I think the build is much better for it:

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As ever, these things often come down to taste and playstyle, but I definitely would rather dish out 10% more damage than be 10% safer. I guess it comes of my long history of playing squishy classes, I'm quite used to popping the odd purple inspiration when I need to. I've said it before, but it bears repeating: Banes are stalkers with some utility powers, trading damage for an excess of survivability doesn't play to their strengths. Their best defense is standing on the shattered corpses of their enemies.