Anyone ever heard of a Huntsmanmind?


BL00DBATH

 

Posted

So I've had a Huntsman sitting in the mid thirties for a while now, and I haven't really given a build a real good shot since i19 went live. I started messing around and this is what I came up with.

46.6% Defense All except Ranged is 55%
212.5% Recharge (on top of what would be eventually Spiritual Core Paragon)
Perma Arachnos Blaster and Call Reinforcements
A full melee attack chain with only the high damage Mace attacks (including Shatter Armor from the PPP)
A full ranged attack chain.
Giving whole team and my pets roughly 21% defense to all.

Here's the mids build

Code:
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1475;725;1450;HEX;|
|78DA65935B4F134114C767BB5B2A2D152AB7722948B1B4F4B2B482126F2188A8281|
|8B0C09BA94B774237A9DB667731F2E667D044E3E533688C51D4E8831FC4447D578C|
|12DF0C9E3D6780D536CDFE66CE9CF39F73CECC2CDCB9D0C2D8DD292675CD5435DB2|
|E4D5B5AB962D6EC52B156D50D6E05AE69CE86A5554397374CC7E6D62DC3D4038CB1|
|C4FF8EB67A5E3379A95837746EED1913CB96669886B95EBAA4E9EBDCF9D7696F313|
|26756B8C54D47DD1B04176BB5AA5AAC73AE877178D158AF38E0DA8AB379AE41BC5D|
|31EA119CCF99B70DDB5833AA86B3D9355B37CAEAEAECF47269412B73F8D80EB736A|
|390739A797FBB7E56F03156606D79C218E2884AC8213A3E02DAD9B310044818C5D8|
|71D95DD90293442649EA844194F9FEC02CC62082C9620BF92920C9942784C788A64|
|78487885C16F5DC1DFC1425F933CC351D2628F00D08BDC024A675E824E104A26582|
|308E188AA3DE5B106CA6FC7CCD945FB04D72578293605464D6040809DDD01BDAF11|
|5629824D22F7136B645788D88432A61D18AB0C813BEAD24A4B4663089DE34A27F94|
|90420C2411AE6B44B847382A74E888AE32610DD17B132105DC13A00DDB7BD1F41ED|
|2EE14BDEFCCA12949780E2BDDA2EA6EAA3A2ACA8D52F56D30EB117DEEA1FC0B0419|
|36EA1395F5B92231A6802926E462243720E40648CE2D64503471F01CD677F42CE10|
|CE1349DCA29C214763602BA71A11B27DD11D24B0AF90F5048423429F1D5E72633F2|
|85F00991FC8C48CFA0EE0EC8A6847B6A054DA3CB8422E13A22BD847811662C23DC3|
|33A5EC32C9D44968E204B4790A323F80DEA2AB9CBEA0E2A8CFD42147E12B611EF20|
|E9BCE8607E0843FB95FDF7067FF8B1748325DF60293458C61B2C130D96ABCAFE2BD|
|D9D573C2F56C6EC16156101938401CD70196411F02DE879CF74997C84ED8315595A|
|C5533AB64258225C91DC0E7EF72AA4A87F841F072B3EE90126337C8F701FB10417B|
|C2012590BBA0234D63CE31B9EF1A267FC17D617F3E9|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
I have not played this toon in a long time, but have always wanted a good Huntsman. Also I have a Widow that is one of my mains so I am used to the whole ranging and melee w/ different attack chains, but this build looks like it could easily over shadow my Widow. If any of you experienced Huntsman could let me know if I'm completely screwing this up I would appreciate it.


 

Posted

slot a chance for +end in stamina


Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3

 

Posted

So you mean take one of the end/acc or end/rech and turn them into a +end? that makes my recovery go down. Or are you suggesting I 4 slot it, in which case what should I take a slot out of?


 

Posted

best slotting would be endmod IO, perfomanceshifter endmod and chance for end (will give you 4,0045 end/sec)
the numbers from the chance for end arent counted in mids but are 0,2245 end/sec [112,25/10 (10% end)= 11,225; 11,225/50 (20% chance and 1 tick every 10 secs)= 0,2245end/sec]


Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3

 

Posted

Thanks for the heads up. That was the only thing you saw that really needed mention? Pretty sweet.


 

Posted

Interesting power picks. But as a pet herder type of toon, a bane is really a very poor substitute for a crab. As I recently discovered, the patron pet is crap and Spiderlings actually pack the biggest punch.

EDIT: Call Reinforcements are a nice addition to any bane build if you can stick them in, but they're still just a nice addition, not something to base your build on. The patron pet is not even that, because as a power it's literally less than half as effective as Call Reinforcements.


 

Posted

noted, and they are just that, extra. i mean i really have all the other bases covered, wouldn't you say?


 

Posted

Uh oh. You're at the softcap with Cloaking Device turned on. You missed the part where it gives only 5.857% defense once your Hidden status breaks, instead of 11.71% with which you're at the cap.


 

Posted

there are some minor things:
1) you are only softcapped to ranged when you are attacking (40,8% def aoe and melee)
2) decid if you want some Hp or some more rec (numina heal/end or miracle heal in health
3) my build with some changes (softcap to ranged and melee even when attacked or attacking)

Code:
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1474;736;1472;HEX;|
|78DA65945B4FD36018C7DF1EC664638C09837118E0606E6CACAC82124F2188A8281|
|870C0858AB36C0D6B32BBA52D46EEFC0CDE100F9FC1438CA2095EF8414CD47BC528|
|F1CEE0D3E77981E99AA5BFF7FDF739B7EFE61E5C6C62ECE10413DAA7CA9A6DE7272|
|DAD50322B763E5729170DDDF25ED79C754B2BFBAFAC9B8EAD5BF70CB3E8658CC5FF|
|37B4950B9AA9E77355A3A85BFB627CD1D20CD330D7F297B5E29AEEFC6BB4FF30346|
|396744B371D657FE19BAF54CA4AAEAAEBC5002E2F196B25074C83B89BD535F0B74B|
|463584FB19F3BE611BAB46D97036DAA7AB4641599E9E5CCCCF69051D6EB6A35B1B1|
|1A839C56AAF3D0F5345C6542666102D59C208E2A842F8086865CFFDE020A0176327|
|24F7C9164802498210864584897F601765E0C1249E427A064830F929E109A2E1316|
|113D13C8CF1DC0C1EF2629E34732519EE5E1EC83B8EF51C39453889681A238C228E|
|C530D07B88D44885898D5498AF45709FF8C6419425D600F0535CD9FF0E5335BF41B|
|46D2106DE2252AF1131A821C09B0F5065CD700FF208C13466EF4A217A860849446F|
|02E19A867823A19B80186BBB85CDB7DF26AC20BAEE20D43C42F0BAA3A7BCAD7B70B|
|16DA83ACC2B0967B092172075F06E3BA8DB086F33425DB7C0AE9387E9A4F22588DC|
|CDE374BBDE51268314E571A214A797C7E9A5386E037DBC89BEF3D857FF39C259C21|
|97A0DA70913F8365EFADD6EC92B26486EAAE3222221116444C64368407C00AF389F|
|6FFCAB885E5F089F1089CF88D414E6DA05A724374F2EA134B448C8116E20520B885|
|701C6D2DC3C5DC4590FEB3898E102611591B98BF80DD1153297945D8C30F28BB043|
|F88908C108B37C84D930CE4CA5D1A97C923DF2C1E1839FFB4653754AB64E51EB94D|
|13A65AC4EB9261F1CD9BD59B9E6F84A58ECBCCC1590047468840F45E20EDF7C0787|
|9B09F4A1ED1C4A92B08C6D0D2E1166047784835711DF6B5D93E8FAE35012854D4C3|
|FD04F07ED11EE16E0335779EA559FFB8F426BAD66BD52B39EAF59FF051C32F5AF|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|


Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3

 

Posted

Yeah I thought they changed that in mids to show defense out of hidden status but it did seem too easy to be true. On my phone atm but will check your build later at home.


 

Posted

i approve of your changes vern. i wasn't really too sold on the whole taking assault thing anyway.


 

Posted

Wow.. never know it's possible to have Perma Arachnos Blaster?? Isn't recharge at 900s with only 240s duration?

And since your goal is to utilize pet, I wonder if other patron pets are better? I think Blood Widow could be doing a lot more damage for you.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

Posted

I guess the title to this thread is misleading. No pets are not the goal of this build. At all. They were just nice little extras once I got the basics covered. Also I have no desire to rely on pets for damage, I went Mace Mastery solely for Shatter Armor.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jibikao View Post
Wow.. never know it's possible to have Perma Arachnos Blaster?? Isn't recharge at 900s with only 240s duration?
Yeah, it's actually not that big of a deal if you stuff in 5 LoTGs and don't need to slot too many defense sets.


 

Posted

here is the build with bloodwidow in:
a bit less -res but more damage with soul teantacles and dark oblit(1,25% extra rech)

Code:
| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1474;734;1468;HEX;|
|78DA6594594F135114C7EF2CA5D2B2552894A58085DAD2D2A12328710B514445C18|
|0051E546C063AA193D46933331879F333F8425C3E839AB8A0893EF8414CD477C5A8|
|8F229E7BCE05AA9D34F3BBF73F67BD4B67EF5D6860ECFE0493DA274B86EBE6CF39C|
|66AD12EBBF95CB954B04CC77FCDF0D61DA314BCBC6E7BAEE9DCB1EC829F3116FFDF|
|D0D5CE1BB699CF55AC82E9EC89F105C7B06CCB5ECB5F320A6BA6F7AFD1DEC7D0B45|
|D341DD3F6B4BD4160AE5C2E69B98A69161A7178D15A2B7A60DA8CB319D3007FB768|
|5542389FB6EF5AAEB562952C6FA37DAA62AD6A4B53E716A088F5527ED6703DD3D98|
|840CD2956FDECFA982E33A633398368C91246108735C207402B7B1A040709BD183B|
|A6F02F5B204924495218061126EFC02CCAC083292285F2049060EA63C22344DD43C|
|226A26918E3F10C3EF262BE34E3920A6FBF08E41FC77A0E9D201C47348C11461147|
|6218E82D44AAA7C2E47A2A2CD022F12F8171105585D5018214570DBEC1544DAF106|
|D5B8881D788D40B440C6A6814CD3752654DF06E16119AD398BD2B85E819222411BD|
|0904370D894642370031D676139B6FBF45584674DD46E87984E4E74B4F795B77E16|
|1EFA0EAB0A8249CC14A9E81D421BAEDA06E23A2CD0875DD02B34E11A693CA572072|
|B788D3CDBDA34C05292AE244294EAF88D34B7178037DA289BEB3D857FF19C269C22|
|9DA86938409DC8DE741DE2D79C52485A73A2A23120A4145647C843AC47BF08A8BF5|
|8D7F91D1EB33E12322F109919AC45CBFC12929CC938B280D2D107284EB88D43C620|
|7CCD3C23C4D7B3CFC9240C760988E4186CEC61F30D7C85CD17E6184919F846DC20F|
|440896302B96301BC635D369E974B1923DEAFEE5831FDFD1548D92AD51F41A65B44|
|619AB51AEAAFB57767746ADBABE0A163BA70A0524091DEAE1A028C2E16B60FF7233|
|890EDAF681A4484BD8D6E022615AE2C775F00AE25BB56B125DBF1F48B2B489E907F|
|AE9A23DC0D93C1C735DA45E09F07F141A1B55E3E5AAF15CD5F82F58F6F7D5|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|


Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3

 

Posted

soul tentacles is cone and takes more time to set up then web envelope. i already plan on spending most of my time in melee, so i like the fact that i can just pop WE from anywhere. also same logic applies to shatter armor over dark oblit. Yes i know dark oblit it TAoE, but my play style and role on my teams is always to find the hard targets and take them out. Aoe is just extra.


 

Posted

was only a hint how it can be done with some more damaging pet


Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3

 

Posted

I have the the Perma Three Pet Huntsman build myself (just 3 seconds of downtime on the arachnoid blaster).

ITs quite lovely to play.


When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...


BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!

 

Posted

Yeah I got that, sorry if it came off defensive. Was just trying to explain my thought process. I appreciate all of your help.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by BL00DBATH View Post
Yeah I got that, sorry if it came off defensive. Was just trying to explain my thought process. I appreciate all of your help.
I wouldnt give up on mace mastery.

The Arachnobot Blaster is thematic.
The combination of Survielance+Venom Grenade+Shatter Armor+ Achilles Heel is fearsome.
Web envelope stacks with WAWG to provide massive -recharge as well.

The combination of the above makes it a breeze to solo AVs.


When something good happens to me, I can never enjoy it....
I am always too busy looking for the inevitable punchline...


BEHOLD THE POWER OF CHEESE!