Potential of traps vs TA

My current project is a fire/ta corruptor. He his lvl 23, and he feels pretty powerful. Im enjoying the debuffs mixed with fire's aoe potential. It seems like the sets blend well together.

On the other hand, I feel like im lacking survivability. I know traps has ffg, which can help a lot in that area, especially in the late game when combined with IO's.

My questions are, how do the two sets compare? For straight debuffing, does TA come out of ahead? When I get to lvl 35 and can use Oil slick arrow, will I be satisfied I carried on, or will I be wishing I made him /traps?

Ty in advance.

PVE solo survivability I'd say Traps is the easier of the two.

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I differ in that I value concepts and fresh team dynamics. I prefer to not get bored with gank and spanks, generally doing things the one way everytime with the same "fotm, ftw, no brainer" powersets and would rather look at every different type of corrupter and help them to help me by playing around them, corerectly to them which may well be differently to other sets. To team with, I don't have a preference between a TA or a Traps. I would have a preference of players behind them.

Haha, Go Luminara! ^___^ I love TA when I'm on teams a bit more than traps. Solo though if you're a corr I would go with Traps. Traps has room for many tasty procs as well.

I have tried traps; it just wasn't my thing.

Now my Fire/TA corruptor - that is one of my favorite toons Great on teams. Great solo.

The trapper is the stronger of the two hands down.

Anyone who suggests a trapper should bring the mobs to them, is playing the set wrong.

I would gladly enjoy a race through a x8 +3 map, bosses on against a TA/ice vs my traps/ice. We can even choose mobs that don't mez so the TA has a chance.

Well personally I prefer Traps but Trick Arrow is also a good set. The two do play very differently, Traps encourages a more aggressive play style while Trick Arrow is a bit more methodical. One thing I think Trick Arrow does better than Traps is provide reactive mitigation.

At the end of the day I think it comes down to what you prefer. A Trapper will be able to solo larger spawns then a Trick Arrow character and the -regen is more useful if you want to solo AVs but TA is a lot of fun to play.

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Originally Posted by Luminara *All enemies +1 or higher resist all debuffs, including debuffs flagged as "unresistable". All enemies of higher rank than Minion resist -ToHit by varying degrees, including -ToHit flagged as "unresistable". The AV "Resistance" power, however, does not resist powers flagged as "unresistable".

I don't believe higher rank enemies actually resist to hit debuff just by virtue of being higher rank. They do have an inherent accuracy bonus which makes to hit debuffs (and defense) less effective.

@ The Op

Traps allows you to obtain soft cap positional defense. Incarnate slotted any Traps toon allows you to solo 4/8 setting on missions. I have been on teams that could not handle that setting. I have 3 level 50 and incarnate slotted Trap toons and I'm working on my 4th.

I have just not read any stellar post about Trick Arrow. The impression I get about Trick Arrow is it's a one or two trick pony.

I want to like Trick Arrow and it really, really has some cool effects. But I just never read anything great about. I don't think you can find any power in Traps that you would want to skip beyond maybe Time Bomb. Traps is the only set that I can think of at this time that you can solo with not using any other powers from your other set, not many sets can boast that.

I have never played traps, the concept bores me. I just got my first incarnate slot for my fire/ta and although the combination provides some cool tricks, I am disappointed in it overall. The debuffs and controls are so spread out that I literally spend half of every fight setting things up (under fire) and half blasting. It feels like I'm playing catch up as soon as I take aggro.

The combo only feels awesome when OSA is up and despite hasten and a spiritual alpha boost, that is not every group. I still play the toon (I'm about to right now) but It never really blossomed into what I thought it would.

EMP arrow is also pretty amazing but suffers from very slow recharge as well.

I have a lvl 44 Fire/TA corr and the damaging is just devastating. Oil Slick can be up for at least every other mob or less if you constantly use Hasten. Traps will get you to soft-cap sooner with mez protection but I enjoy not having to pull or run out of melee range to get the best use of all blast powers (namely fire breath).

Lastly, did you take Tough and Weave? Those combiend with Scorpion Shield can help you get to soft-cap and is noticeably more survivable when taking on full spawns a lvl or two higher than you.

I haven't played high level /TA Corruptor yet. My only experience with /TA is a lvl 32 Demon/TA. (I think /TA sucks on MM. The debuff values are soooo low)

I actually didn't know you can stack Disruption Arrow. I do know you can stack Acid Mortar. I've tested that before against Pylon.

If you are soloing, I have to assume /Trap is better and mostly because of the simple mez protection against Stun/Hold. However, in terms of safety, I think every /TA user should take Hover because that can improve your survival A LOT! /Trap will have a hard time using Hover because he can't drop traps in air (they fixed that). If you Hover in air, you can avoid many attacks.

I think most people would say /Trap is better (I thought that too). However, I now think /TA has potential but I just haven't really built one yet. The stacking Disruption is very nice to know.

Poison Trap is still one awesome power that is very hard to beat and most experienced Trappers have no trouble running in to drop traps.

Disruption stacks, how about Acid Arrow? I usually throw an Achille's -Res Proc and roughly expect to have about -50% RES on most targets when all debuffs have been thrown out.

Interesting. I had gone back through the power stats and did notice anything to suggest it doesn't.

On another note, it would be interesting to have an arrow that saps end from mobs and gives it to those nearby... me and my dreams...

**Unfortunately my edits don't correct mistakes from quotes...

Hi,

I recently resubscribed after an absence of a couple of years, so I might be a little out of date. That said, my first 50 was a TA/A defender (way back when before TA/A got buffed so much) and the first character I got fully accoladed-out was an Ice/Traps corruptor. One of the reasons I quit was because I was so pissed off at the nerf to procs in poison gas trap, but I suppose that is all old hat now and people have come to terms with it.

I would echo other people on this thread:

(1) If you are playing traps as a "lay traps and then wait for them to come to you" character, you are playing it wrong. It is meant to be played in melee range in the thick of it all IMO.

(2) Trick arrow is more reliant on long recharges IMO because the really uber things like Oil slick or EMP are on very long recharges. Traps needs plenty of recharge too, but is not quite as crippled I think, since its core abilities have at most a 90 sec recharge.

(3) Do you want to play a melee or ranged character? This is the biggest consideration in my opinion. Trick arrow is awesome because all of its abilities are ranged and this gives you a lot of flexibility. I suppose you could play something like a fire/traps as mainly a ranged character but missing out on toe bombing mines and poison gas traps really makes the set lose something I think.

(4) The other question aside from (3) is do you want lots of pseudo pets or do you want to just act more directly? This is more stylistic than anything else.

(5) Traps is unquestionably more survivable. That doesn't mean that Trick Arrow doesn't have a lot of cool tricks up its sleeve though. Also, being at range is often a big survivability boost and often makes things in teams go more smoothly (or at least you have to be less on your toes in teams.)

Traps also gives you status protection... For self survivability, traps is the easy winner. It takes some learning, but it's a very solid set, able to absorb alphas for the team even.

The only thing I didn't like about traps is that you're relying on slow recharging powers, so there's a period of time where teams may run faster then you're go to powers are recharging... once you get fully IO'd and you start facing harder spawns, this problem goes away.

I think it depends wholly on teamed or solo really. I find traps lacks any kind of fun factor on fast teams. Everyone talks about running in and laying traps, and you can, but on most the teams I am on lately, they are simply way to fast for traps, heck, even too fast for the damn shield drone to keep up. Solo, its sweet though, I dont like it, but it works great.

TA on the other hand is great on both fast and slow teams. You can just pick your arrows to suit the speed of the team. Solo, wow, I find it simply painful. I must completly suck, because I just find it has no way to keep me alive very well. This is with basic IO's. Mine is the defender version, so some of the issue is with the my playstyle. I rarely die with my blasters, but good grief do I spend alot of time face down with my TA solo.

Now if fire is the primary I think either would be fun, but if I was always going to team, I would pic, TA, if I was solo, or equally mixed, I think I would say Traps.

Plus, with TA you can tell people not to panick you will shoot them with your healing or rez arrow, then grumble about how someone must have been messing with your quiver, because its loaded with the inflatable raft arrow instead.

/TA isn't bad on a controller...but on any other AT you faceplant more than a Fire/Fire Blaster with Provoke!