Shield/Ice?

K, iv never seen a Shield/Ice tank on Infinity server yet, as iv seen.. what do you think of this combo for just like task forcing, with some farms with friends once in while, would it be great? Iv never played Shield past Level 4, or Ice past like 6. So, i thought it would be a different combo, just wondering really if its worth leveling up. I Have 2 50 Tanks, Fire/SS and Ice/Ele, then 2 50 Scraps, DM/DA, Kat/SR, so there you go, now you see my playstyle lol. Also a 50 troller, Fire/Kin which i dont play...never..really..dont like her..

Shield has good synergy with Ice, as Ice's damage is primarily AoE(which works with SD's AAO), and Ice Melee one of the best if not the best tanker secondaries for mitigation out there, so while SD isn't at the top of the list for mitigation, Ice Melee is, which works rather nicely. While your ST damage will leave much to be desired, you can console yourself with the fact that you're still contributing -20% resistance and -Recharge to the team.

AAO + BU + Frozen Aura = win.

Of course, AAO + BU + damn near anything = win, but still.

A side benefit of this combo is that Shield's Taunt Aura doesn't do damage, so you can actually make use of Frozen Aura's sleep effect.

I have a level 50 Shield/Ice tank on Guardian, and he's a ton of fun. Frozen Aura and Frost make for some decent AoE, especially when combined with AAO.

Yes, your single target damage will be rather lacking (think Elec Melee's ST damage) but overall I find the combo fun.

I actually resec'ed him into GIS just so I would have a 3rd ST attack.

It's actually a tempting combination to create but I am tripping over shield toons on my own account as is.

I found this old thread so I figured I'd Necro it for a question.

Is it acceptable to make Shield/Ice and skip Frost? I have made (and deleted) probably a half dozen /Ice tankers at various levels (highest being a level 50 Fire/Ice) and I've had Frost in and out of my builds a dozen times, and I hate it. I just can't get the hang of using it. I've tried for hours and its just not fun for me. I hate thinking about it.

So, my plan is to go with Shield Charge, Frozen Aura, and Ice Storm, and call it a day.

Will this approach be adequate? I'm already level 25 or so and while I do wish for some AOE, I'm getting close to shield charge, so I'm feeling pretty good so far.

Thanks,

Lewis

EDIT: I decided to drop Tough and Weave. Painful. I'm still "almost" (44.8) softcapped to normal content but I added Frost in. Not sure if I should keep Frost or not. Bah humbug!



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Winterjack: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Arctic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9), LkGmblr-Def(9), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17)
Level 1: Frozen Fists -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(5), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), T'Death-Dam%(37)
Level 2: Ice Sword -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11), LkGmblr-Def(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17)
Level 6: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: True Grit -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(19), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(19)
Level 10: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 14: Super Speed -- QckFt-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 16: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(25), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(25), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(43), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(50), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 18: Phalanx Fighting -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 20: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 22: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 26: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 28: Freezing Touch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Taunt -- Acc-I(A)
Level 32: Frost -- Mocking-Acc/Rchg(A), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(33), EndRdx-I(33), HO:Centri(33), HO:Centri(34), HO:Centri(46)
Level 35: Greater Ice Sword -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Frozen Aura -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), CSndmn-Heal%(40)
Level 41: Block of Ice -- Lock-Acc/Hold(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg(42), Lock-Rchg/Hold(42), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(42), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), Lock-%Hold(43)
Level 44: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(45), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Ice Storm -- Det'tn-Acc/Dmg(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(50)
Level 49: Fly -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 50: Nerve Total Radial Revamp
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(23), EndMod-I(23)

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Oh and this another possible build which has my Defenses way higher, still includes Frost, but I lose Ice Storm and Ice Blast and Block of Ice. So its less versatile, but tougher.

I unfortunately over-wrote my build that did not have Frost. It was about as tough as this tough build, and still had Ice Storm, Ice Blast and Block of Ice, but it just didnt have Frost.

But anyway this is another build WITH Frost, that is tougher, but I still question whether I should take Frost at all. Hmm.

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Winterjack DEF: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Shield Defense
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9), LkGmblr-Def(9), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17)
Level 1: Frozen Fists -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(5), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), T'Death-Dam%(37)
Level 2: Ice Sword -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11), LkGmblr-Def(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(17)
Level 6: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: True Grit -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(19), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(19)
Level 10: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 14: Super Speed -- QckFt-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 16: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(25), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(25), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(43), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(43), GSFC-Build%(43)
Level 18: Phalanx Fighting -- DefBuff-I(A)
Level 20: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 22: Grant Cover -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46), Ksmt-ToHit+(46)
Level 26: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 28: Freezing Touch -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 30: Taunt -- Acc-I(A)
Level 32: Frost -- Mocking-Acc/Rchg(A), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(33), EndRdx-I(33), HO:Centri(33), HO:Centri(34), HO:Centri(42)
Level 35: Greater Ice Sword -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Frozen Aura -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), CSndmn-Heal%(40)
Level 41: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(45), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Aegis-ResDam(46)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), LkGmblr-Def(50), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 50: Cardiac Total Radial Revamp
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(42)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), P'Shift-EndMod(23), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(23), P'Shift-End%(42)

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