Help IOing a Grav/FF...

Hey there,

Now that I have spent a lot more time on Wylde-Fire due to the Incarnate content... I want to make him the best that I can... on a limited budget.

Ultimately, I would like some assistance in slotting Wylde-Fire up the best that I can keeping two things in mind: I can't dedicate a gigantic budget to him (a few hundred million will suffice), and I would like to stick to the concept that he manipulates force and Gravity (aka no Fire as an Epic, for example).

Right now, he is a Level 50 Controller with Grav/FF/Primal and the Medicine, Inherent Stamina and Flight pools.

Any suggestions for what I should do with him?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

I know Gravity is considered pretty underpowered... but no one has anything to say?

We have been getting a lot of "Make me a build" requests lately, so those often don't get many (or any) responses. Plus, Grav/FF is not an overly popular combo.

You would do better to ask specific questions or post a proposed build. Open ended questions like "Any suggestions for what I should do with him?" are asking for a snarky response. You should explain your playstyle, how much you team or solo, and what your goals are. Try making a reasonably priced build and ask if that build will work with your goals.

I have a level 50 Grav/FF/Primal that is at the ranged def cap. He has the tier 2 incarnate and was built pretty much on the cheap, minus the LotGs, but few purples and PvPIOs. I don't have the build handy here at work, but I can answer specific questions or critique a build.

By the way, I don't believe grav/FF is underpowered at all. In fact, there are times when I feel like it is one of the most overpowered sets I play. Your bubbles keep the team standing, your control is among the best, your pet is awesome at keeping you from worrying at all about melee (making hitting the ranged cap doubly effective), and Propel+Power Blast is a nice one-two ranged punch. plus, you have some quirky -if oft underused- powers with great effects, like Wormhole and Force Bubble.

I don't have a lot of thoughts on it yet but Primal is definitely the APP I would be looking to. Contained knockdown from the cages + 60% chance for knockdown in the AoE cone blast is too much mitigation for me to pass up. Add the chance to knockdown and chance to hold procs from purple sets in the AoE cages and Gravity become quite nice. While I wish it started about 40 levels earlier, high level Gravity Control actually is pretty decent.

I dunno how expensive the particular purple sets are that you allude to... but they are likely outside of my fiscal reach.

Hmmm, that Tip mission thing seems like a pretty good idea, actually.

I made you a possible starter build. Focus on being easy to obtain and a little room to grow into. This build would allow you to maximize your stats very cheaply to start out, and give you some places to mark for future development. I left the level 28 and 38 slots blank for you to select a power of your choice. Force Bubble, Repulsion Field, Detention Field, Fly, etc. You also have 2 left over slots to do with what you like.

This build is very close to the ranged cap when Hovering and capped while Hovering. It is built with for the Cardiac alpha tree to help reduce endurance costs, extend range, and increase slash/lethal resistance. Hitting Power Boost at any time caps you to everything for 15 seconds. Reach for it when you get jumped. You should also be hitting it when opening on enemies to max out your early controls. This will also make the alpha attack of any enemies you miss mostly bounce off you.

For killing single targets, spam Crush, Lift, and Power Blast. Use Gravity Distortion as a control rather than an attack.

To give you an idea on how to shop, consider this tiered approach. You don't have to do it in this exact order, but this may give you some focus:

1) Go after the Thunderstrikes, Red Fortunes, and Titanium Coating first as they are offer the biggest immediate boosts and are cheap/easy to get. Also fill in the slots you will be using generic IOs.

2) Karma and Steadfast Protection procs. The latter may be expensive. Place an order for them and wait if you have to. If you can't afford yet, bypass and come back for it.

3) Positron's Blast, Stupefy, Expedient Reinforcement. Most of these recipes are not that expensive or hard to come by. Major expense may come from the rare components, typically around 3-5 mill each at current prices.

4) The various non-purple procs. I have no sense of price of these. Feel free to combine with 5 below.

5) Basilisk's Gaze, Decimation. The recipes themselves are probably much more expensive than what you've bought up to this point. Don't try to do it all at once. Place orders for recipes and leave them on the market.

6) Purple procs. Very expensive, but at least less so than full sets. Expect to pay 50-100 million just for the recipe. Soooo worth it once you have them.

7) Luck of the Gambler. Do not pay market price for these. Run hero tip missions and/or Task Forces. If you run 5 heroes a day, it will take 4 days to get eat LotG. You will need to play your character a bit to grab them. On the plus side, it's an excuse to play your character.


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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Gravity Control
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Lift -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Personal Force Field -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 2: Crush -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 4: Deflection Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(48), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 6: Gravity Distortion -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(11), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(39), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(50)
Level 8: Crushing Field -- Ragnrk-Knock%(A), GravAnch-Hold%(17), EndRdx-I(17), TotHntr-Dam%(25), Posi-Dam%(40), ImpSwft-Dam%(43)
Level 10: Insulation Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(48), DefBuff-I(48)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(15), DefBuff-I(15)
Level 16: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(40)
Level 18: Gravity Distortion Field -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(39), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(40)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(21), RedFtn-Def(21), RedFtn-EndRdx(23), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 24: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(25)
Level 26: Wormhole -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(27), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(27), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(29), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(29), Stpfy-KB%(37)
Level 28: [Empty] -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Weave -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(31), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(34), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 32: Singularity -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), EdctM'r-PetDef(34), C'Arms-+Def(Pets)(34)
Level 35: Repulsion Bomb -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(36), Posi-Dmg/Rng(36), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 38: [Empty] -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Power Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(42), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Energy Torrent -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(45), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), Posi-Dmg/Rng(45), Posi-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Power Boost -- RechRdx(A)
Level 49: Temp Invulnerability -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(A)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Boost
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(7)

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WOW! Thank you ever so much for what looks to be a great source of information and a very good direction for me to move toward. I shall have to scrounge a bit, but a good deal of that looks do-able.