guess no one has tried it... Ill post my thoughts when the respec is complete. Might be a few more days though.. i need a pvp IO to complete my build...
I haven't taken any of my 'Trollers over Red-side yet to get PPPs. However, the main problem is that Illusion really, really benefits from a fast-recharging single target blast. You want to get a quick blast in there for the Blind-SW-Blast-SW attack chain.
My Illusion/Cold went with the Ice APP. I don't mind the Ice Shield since I am casting Ice Shields on everyone else, and that way I fit in. (Besides, my character is "Florida Snowman," so the Ice Shield fits him nicely. The idea is that since there are no Snowmen in Florida, he must be an Illusion.)
Let me know how it works out. One of these days, I need to take a 'Troller red-side just to try out all the PPP sets.
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well as an ill/cold i know your aware of how often we must cast sleet.. resummon pets.. etc. my ultimate goal here is to be a single target attacker first. Mainly for AV's and GM's. Im hoping the time missed in my attack chain will be substituted by the constant damage from water spout and the damage from bile spray.. we'll see.. i may go back to ice if i dont like it.
Also i teamed with your character on an ITF.. My character name is NIHIL. I liked your bio 
I remember you . . . Your name had spaces, so it was N I H I L.
With any Illusion Controller, Recharge is always very desireable, with the goal of getting Perma-PA. That also lets you stack up Sleet and fire off Benumb more often. And Heat Loss.
I really don't know if damage from Water Spout and Bile Spray will compare to the quick Ice Blast and Frost Breath. I lean towards the faster attack chain because a fast output of damage will take down lower level foes faster. That lets you leverage the Illusory Damage from Spectral Wounds, Phantasm's Decoy and Phantom Army better. However, it may not help as much on tougher targets where you generally can't take out the foe before the heal-back.
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well i tried levitahan and im not real impressed. Im still able to destroy AV's and i beat synapse easily.. but im not sure i like the damage output... wish i was a good numbers guy so i could figure up my damage.. i cant stand not having my attack chain anymore.
Well, since you have gone Red-side to get access to the PPP sets, you might want to try Mace. Most of the Ill/Rad folks who wanted to try a PPP set wanted to try Mace.
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Scin, Do you use Hibernate that much? If not, why not take the pet instead, it's yet another source of quite a bit of damage, and if you have Perma PA, then the new pet would be Perma too, or close enough.
With PermaPA recharge, wouldn't Blind, SW, Blind, SW... almost be an attack chain by itself (with the right slotting)?
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No, it isn't quite fast enough to be an attack chain. One of the main reasons I generally recommend the Fire or Ice APP is the fast-recharging single target blast. That gives you a great attack chain of Blind-SW-Blast-SW.|
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Scin, Do you use Hibernate that much? If not, why not take the pet instead, it's yet another source of quite a bit of damage, and if you have Perma PA, then the new pet would be Perma too, or close enough.
With PermaPA recharge, wouldn't Blind, SW, Blind, SW... almost be an attack chain by itself (with the right slotting)? |
On my characters who take the Ice APP, Hibernate is a pretty good panic button power, especially for a character (like an Illusion/Cold) who does not have another self-heal power. My Ill/Cold used it about 3 or 4 times on the STF I did yesterday.
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I currently have a fully decked out ill/cold/ice with capped range defense and I love playing him, but I never use the shield because 1. I have capped range defense and 2. It looks like crap (IMO). I know fire is a good choice but my question is what do you think about leviathan? I was thinking I might have a little better single target damage with water spout out... Pretty close to the same aoe damage with bile spray compared to ice storm? ... I still get hibernate.... And a more useful and better looking shield (IMO). I will be skipping the pet.
Anyway, any thoughts?