If this is for PvP, I'm no PvP expert so I'll reserve judgment. But for PvE, the build is horrible.
You should start by reading up on Enhancement Diversification (ED).
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Enhancement_DiversificationThe TL;DR version is don't slot more than three of the same enhancement in a power.
And again for PvE, here's my standard "Regen on SOs" boilerplate:
“There are definitely other approaches, but here's what I'd consider a basic plan for the Regeneration secondary using SOs or common IOs:Not so sure about the whole Quick Recovery vs. Stamina thing as I haven't leveled a Regen since inherent fitness. My thinking is that you're almost certainly going to need Quick Recovery. That being the case, it's better to slot it first, as you might not need the extra slots in Stamina. Doesn't matter much for a respec build like yours, but I thought I'd mention it.
- Fast Healing at 1, 3 heals
- Reconstruction nice and early, 3 heals, 3 recharges
- Dull Pain when or shortly after when available, as there is a lot to squeeze in at that level, 3 heals, 3 recharges
- Integration at 16, 3 heals, possibly 1 endurance reducer
- Resilience when and if you can work it in, 1 resist
- Instant Healing when or shortly after when available, 1-3 recharges, no heals unless you're swimming in slots
- Skip Revive
- Moment of Glory when or shortly after when available, 3 recharges
- Hasten when convenient, 3 recharges
- Tough when convenient, 3 resists, 1 endurance reducer
- Slot Health when convenient, 3 heals
- Quick Recovery when the default slot in Stamina isn't enough. 1 endurance modifier at first, add 1 or 2 more as necessary
- Slot Stamina only after slotting Quick Recovery. 1 endurance modifier at first, add 1 or 2 more as necessary"
If it were me, I'd also try to get some basic defense, but it will use up even more power and pool choices. Combat Jumping or Hover, but don't worry about slotting for defense. Weave with 3 defense. Maneuvers with 3 defense. The Steadfast Protection unique in Resilience or Tough. With even-level SOs, that will give you 14.3% defense to all. Not great, but not bad."
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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I think our definitions of "tough people" are drastically different.|
Originally Posted by fireiceking
and despite all the single sets hes gone up against some pretty tough ppl and won
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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^Professional Katana/regen build thread
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I think our definitions of "tough people" are drastically different.
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I don't PvP but even I see gaping holes in that build -- sorry!
First off, what Werner said about Enhancement Diversification. You've got about 17 slots where you violated the "Rule of Three" which as far as I can tell are totally and completely wasted.
You have eight attacks, but four have nothing but a single accuracy in them??! One's got SIX recharges, one has SIX damages? Ablating Strike at least is set up to debuff, but Vengeful Slice is the only one that's actually slotted for a well-rounded combination of accuracy, damage, endurance reduction and recharge. You'd be a lot better off if all your attacks had the same semblance of balance.
I'll give it a 1 because you're at least asking for advice, but you could do an infinitely better job on the same budget, just by spreading some SO's around to where they'd actually do more good.
"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
I'm calling shenanigans on this one.
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Originally Posted by VeryBadDay
I'm calling shenanigans on this one.
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"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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I'm giving it a 1.5, just because it made me laugh.
For the record, you now have the dubious honor of having posted the worst Anything/Regen build I have seen yet. That is of course, assuming that you are actually serious. (I'm not trying to be a jerk, just honest, it really IS that bad)
And because you asked, /Regen benefits the most from the Spiritual Incarnate path. Boosts recharge and healing, both things /Regen wants more of.
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Originally Posted by VeryBadDay
I'm calling shenanigans on this one.
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Originally Posted by Werner
Wouldn't be surprising.
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...it just looks as though he didn't listen to any of the advice in that thread. Of course, back then he didn't grasp how to use combos and had NO enhancements in his slots, so this is at least a marginal improvement?
Unless he chooses not to follow any advice in this thread either.
"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
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Originally Posted by Eldorado
Actually, if you go back to his post from Novermber asking about build advice: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=244702
...it just looks as though he didn't listen to any of the advice in that thread. Of course, back then he didn't grasp how to use combos and had NO enhancements in his slots, so this is at least a marginal improvement? Unless he chooses not to follow any advice in this thread either. |
I rate it 1 because it does nothing a Scrapper should do: it won't survive, and what's even worse, it won't even put out good damage. I hope you aren't serious with this.
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Yeah, after my post I was curious, so I went and found that. As you say, there has been improvement. Another improvement is ditching Soul Mastery for Body Master. Yes, yes, I know that Shadow Meld is great for a Regen, but he didn't have Shadow Meld, just three other powers. So at least Physical Perfection is a step up. I'm hoping in a couple more months we'll see a build with no more than three of the same SO in a single power. Step by step. We'll get there.
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Of course, back then he didn't grasp how to use combos and had NO enhancements in his slots, so this is at least a marginal improvement?
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"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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sry was building him for pvp and if any1 wants to fight him tell me what time you want to fight and im in maryland so est
pinnicle by the way
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Did you really just say "Nuh uh! Meet me after school and I'll kick your ***!" What are you, five? Well, you could be five. That would explain some things.|
Originally Posted by fireiceking
sry was building him for pvp and if any1 wants to fight him tell me what time you want to fight and im in maryland so est
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Look, if by some impossible chance you're not making this all up and you really have beaten tough people with that build, then you're an amazing player. So how about expanding on that amazing play skill by learning a few of the fundamental basics about the rules of the game you're playing? About how the game actually works? You don't need to be a master builder, but even a basic understanding of some basic concepts would help you immensely. It'd make you that much better. Don't you want to be better? Or were you just posting your build to waste everyone's time?
Anyway, I'm out. Some people can't be helped. You could try to prove you're not one of them, but I suspect you'll continue to do the opposite.
"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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Whether you're building this character for PvP or PvE, Werner's general advice above on how to slot things applies to BOTH types of play. How to maximize your healing and thus your defense, and how to maximize your END recovery -- it doesn't matter if you're PvP'ing or PvE'ing, they're both important to your character's survival. I'm not sure if Revive is that important to your PvP playstyle, but I agree with everything else Werner suggested. |
Originally Posted by fireiceking
sry was building him for pvp and if any1 wants to fight him tell me what time you want to fight and im in maryland so est
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Of my advice, Enhancement diversification and "more than three SO's are wasted" applies to BOTH.
Those seventeen slots that aren't doing anything, and the woefully underslotted attacks? You guessed it -- applies to BOTH.
The suggested changes would make a HUGE difference in your character's damage and survivability, and you're the one who came looking for advice twice now -- perhaps it's time to consider what people are suggesting?
I would love to know what happens if any Pinnacle PvPer takes you up on your offer, though I suspect it'd be rather ugly.
"But it wasn't anything some purples and oranges and lots of screaming in fear couldn't handle." -- Werner
30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
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sry was building him for pvp and if any1 wants to fight him tell me what time you want to fight and im in maryland so est
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pinnicle by the way
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I'll maybe have some time to kill this weekend. PM me with your global name and I'll let you know if I decide to fight you.
One catch: I get to decide for myself which character I bring, and I'm not playing by fiteklub rules, so if I bring a ranged character you can't complain about it.
If you're really that good, you shouldn't have a problem taking out a defender, right?
Edit: Just for the record, if you can't beat ME, then your claim of taking out "really tough people" will be proven to be a lie, because I'm a lightweight in the Pinnacle PvP crowd. I'd love to see what happens if one of Pinnacle's big dogs decides to take you on.
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Still waiting for that PM there, champ.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
ok sent
lurn2pvpkthxbai
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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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^Professional Katana/regen build thread
Pinnacle PvP you say? I'll have a go with you.
PM me your global.
Oh, he's probably fighting ice dudes, that's why he's winning.
After all, he's playing a scraper. We know that from November.
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Softcapping an Invuln is fantastic. Softcapping a Willpower is amazing. Softcapping SR is kissing your sister.
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Originally Posted by fireiceking
Ok i know all the combos inside and out
i dont have any accolades yet i dont have a incarnate on and could you recommend a incarnate that would be useful so here it is [Insert the worst build ever here] and despite all the single sets hes gone up against some pretty tough ppl and won also im low on cash  |
*tries to think of an incarnate that couldn't possibly help at all*
You want the Nerve Core boost, my good chum.
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Originally Posted by Werner
Did you really just say "Nuh uh! Meet me after school and I'll kick your ***!"
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Oh, he's probably fighting ice dudes, that's why he's winning.
After all, he's playing a scraper. We know that from November. |
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and no accually ive been fighting widows other scrappers and some blasters
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Softcapping an Invuln is fantastic. Softcapping a Willpower is amazing. Softcapping SR is kissing your sister.
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Did he ever get back to you, Claws? 'cuz I'm not really interested in beating up children.
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I just haven't gotten around to him yet. I PvP when I'm in the mood for it, and I haven't been in the mood for it lately.
If his build is really exactly how he posted it here I have a couple characters that will most likely make pretty short work of him. I'm not really bragging here, his build has no way to shut off Radiation Emission toggles, so between Radiation Infection, Enervating Field, and Choking Cloud he'd be pretty much helpless for most of the fight. Plus it has no ranged ability and no Super Jump, so if he DOES manage to actually start landing hits I can hover just out of his reach.
It's just a poorly thought out build that can only be competitive with a very small number of ATs and powersets. I have a scrapper that would probably keep him stunned most of the time as well.
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Ok i know all the combos inside and out
i dont have any accolades yet
i dont have a incarnate on and could you recommend a incarnate that would be useful
so here it is
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.90
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SCRAPO: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Nimble Slash
- (A) Accuracy
Level 1: Fast Healing- (A) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance: Level 30
- (3) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Recharge: Level 30
- (3) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (5) Healing
- (5) Healing
Level 2: Power Slice- (A) Accuracy
Level 4: Reconstruction- (A) Healing
- (7) Healing
- (7) Recharge Reduction
- (9) Recharge Reduction
Level 6: Ablating Strike- (A) Analyze Weakness - Defense Debuff: Level 50
- (9) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Defense Debuff: Level 50
- (11) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (11) Analyze Weakness - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (13) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 8: Quick Recovery- (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
- (21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
- (23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
- (25) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
Level 10: Typhoon's Edge- (A) Accuracy
Level 12: Dull Pain- (A) Healing
- (25) Healing
- (27) Recharge Reduction
- (27) Recharge Reduction
Level 14: Blinding Feint- (A) Accuracy
Level 16: Integration- (A) Healing
Level 18: Vengeful Slice- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (29) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (29) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (31) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (46) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 20: Resilience- (A) Resist Damage
Level 22: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction
Level 24: Super Speed- (A) Run Speed
Level 26: Sweeping Strike- (A) Recharge Reduction
- (31) Recharge Reduction
- (33) Recharge Reduction
- (33) Recharge Reduction
- (33) Recharge Reduction
- (34) Recharge Reduction
Level 28: Instant Healing- (A) Recharge Reduction
- (34) Recharge Reduction
- (34) Recharge Reduction
- (36) Recharge Reduction
- (36) Recharge Reduction
- (36) Recharge Reduction
Level 30: Kick- (A) Empty
Level 32: Tough- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (45) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance: Level 50
- (46) Titanium Coating - Endurance: Level 50
Level 35: Weave- (A) Defense Buff
- (37) Defense Buff
- (37) Defense Buff
- (37) Defense Buff
- (40) Defense Buff
- (43) Defense Buff
Level 38: One Thousand Cuts- (A) Damage Increase
- (39) Damage Increase
- (39) Damage Increase
- (39) Damage Increase
- (40) Damage Increase
- (40) Damage Increase
Level 41: Moment of Glory- (A) Recharge Reduction
- (42) Recharge Reduction
- (42) Recharge Reduction
- (42) Recharge Reduction
- (43) Recharge Reduction
- (43) Recharge Reduction
Level 44: Conserve Power- (A) Recharge Reduction
- (50) Recharge Reduction
Level 47: Physical Perfection- (A) Healing
- (48) Healing
- (48) Healing
- (48) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
- (50) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
Level 49: Focused Accuracy- (A) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception: Level 20
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest- (A) Empty
Level 1: Critical HitLevel 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Empty
Level 2: Hurdle- (A) Empty
Level 2: Health- (A) Healing
- (13) Healing
- (15) Healing
- (15) Healing
- (17) Healing
Level 2: Staminaalso im low on cash